While waiting on a very long line for Nitro this past Sunday after dark (about 6:30 closing night), a bunch of people behind me were smoking pot - right there in the open, with little kids all over the place. I never gave a rat's a** what anybody did in PRIVATE before, believe me. Now things are different. Anyway, I had to breathe that throat-clawing stench for a long time. I should have said something but I'm too chicken to start an argument, I guess. But you're not even supposed to smoke regular cigarettes on the ride queues, let alone pot. I've read and heard on the news that the drug industry is supporting all this terrorism (or a great majority of it) so I guess that's why I reacted so strongly. When people pay their "supplier", where is that money ending up?????? Do they know? Do they even care?? -------------
not to condone drug use or anything but the terrorism we are dealing with comes from a part of the world which is supported by drugs like opium and cocaine. pot comes mainly from S America and wouldnt really support the terrorism we fear... unless you think scarface might come running down the street with an uzi. And as far as cocaine addicts are concerned, most of them probably do not give a rats a** as to where their money is going.
It just blows my mind that people would be so blatant about drug use. (Although probably not as much as they were blowing THEIR minds)
I'm fairly libertarian (note the little "l"), and believe that what people want to do within the confines of their own homes, as long as it isn't causing harm to other people, is their business (and even then, there's a fuzzy area of "consenting adults", but this is a family forum so I won't go too far down that road). Not that you'll ever find any drugs in MY home -- I value my grey matter too much, thanks.
But public use, ESPECIALLY at a "family environment" like an amusement park (even Great Adventure) is just way beyond any reasonable expectations. I'm just amazed they got away with it -- my trip to GAdv this year, the Nitro crew was all over just about any infraction in the queues, from jumping to smoking.
Personally, I think the government should lighten up on marijuana use. Having said that, I think that people like this do way more damage to that end than could any right-wing busy body. Likewise, I hate folks getting drunk in front of kids. That's why they don't let them into bars. Sorry to hear about that. Keep that stuff at home folks!
Once I was going up the lift on Ghostrider and some stupid kids behind me were smoking pot while ON THE RIDE! Also, at SFSTL, I saw the most disgusting thing...a man smoking a cigarette and chewing tobacco at the SAME TIME. Some people are strange...
That's pretty irresponsible behavior, especially around the kiddies. You should have said something. They probably would have been more embarrassed than you, and put it out.
As for the drug industry funding terrorists, don't believe the hype. We recently gave the Taliban $43 million to crack down on the opium trade, which they did. This is a major factor in the region's poverty. $43 million wasn't enough to compensate for the removal of the major cash crop, but it was enough to get the Taliban to get rid of it. Nowadays, 90% of the opium from Afghanistan comes from the Northern territories, which are controlled by (surprise, surprise) our "buddies" in the Northern Alliance.
Most pot and cocaine comes from Latin America, and is a whole other issue in terms of "terror." Check with the indigenous people there who live under the rule of any number of tyrants for more details.
I dont see why you all are so suprised by this. I have been around pot smokers in just about every facet of life. School, work (not my current goverment job of course ;)), sporting events, clubs and YES even amusement parks.
And GregLeg, I'm a bit suprised @ you. Do you not recall the day when we met @ CP I noted someone was partaking of "herbal refreshment" in the Millennium Force queue? While I am impressed with the audacity of some folks, it doesnt really shock me anymore.
AND ONE MORE THING, all these drugs seem to make their way into our country. America is *supposed* to be this great superpower. Do you all *really* believe that there would be drugs in this country if NO people of influence wanted them?
BTW: I'm fairly conservative, but I think the USA needs to nuke the so-called "War on Drugs". It's pointless and a waste of resources; not to mention extremely unfair. lata, jeremy ------------- A Nigerian Muslim sharia court sentences a pregnant woman found guilty of adultery to be stoned to death, but only after she has finished weaning her baby. This is known in some parts of the Muslim world as compassionate conservatism
You guys are being funny talking about where drugs come from, LOL. Pot, cocaine, heroin, if it's in America, it probaly crossed the Mexican border. Latin America? As far as Afghanistan and supporting terrorists, the finger should be pointed at Amsterdam. All people who smoke "Amsterdam weed" or expensive pot from imported seeds or through seed banks, you have willingly given money to these terrorists, because the most popular and potent strains that were introduced throughout the last 20 years come from Afghanistan, an otherwise exotic and unfavorable place to even want to visit, LOL. These people in Amsterdam knew who they were getting thier seeds from, they also opened a little heroin door there. To knowingly build the whole base of what you do on the foundation of that hate is very selfish. The fields for hash that were around during the early 80s are quite frankly a heroin production facility now. Amsterdam and Great Brittian are hardy consumers, to say the least. These Amsterdam seed banks have spread to North Americae BC region of Canada. Support these people and you are supporting terrorism. Otherwise, drugs come from Mexico and places like that. To get a product from Afghanistan to the USA is not something you can think about, it just doesn't happen. It's unpractical. Also, lots of grass is domestic, too.
Those millions we gave the Taliban to stop opium? That's funny, too. The Taliban is known to stockpile inventory, to the point that they can control the prices. If we gave them 43million, they used that money to raise the price on the heroin they kept!
Do not point fingers or hold hostile feelings towards people who have rights to make up their own minds. They are not supporting terrorism. You want to know why they were allowed to do that in line, the answer is simple. You let them, you didn't tell on them or ask them to put it out(which is what you should have done). They obviously have no respect for themselves or others if they can get high in line. People should respect the fact that you can get away with anything that people don't know about. Letting other people be subject to it, is asking for trouble.
I noticed that in the Bull line this past sunday. Seeing the pot itself is not the shocking part, it's the fact that it was in the que. Parks make a big deal about smoking in line (well, most of them anyway) sometimes guests also tell the smoker to put it out, so bringing pot into a line where cigerettes are prohibited is pretty dumb.
------------- -Defender of Shockwave
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Actually, p_c_r, if you want to point the finger at anyone for the Afghan heroine trade, it would be the U.S. The CIA's involvement in introducing heroine labs in the 1980's to fund the Jihad against the Soviets is pretty common knowledge at this point. And yes, the coke in the US does cross the border through Mexico, after coming from places like Peru and Columbia first (i.e. Latin America).
*** This post was edited by chris on 10/31/2001. ***
That unbelievable. Why would anyone want to risk getting arrested? You are around thousands of people and by doing this you would think someone would speak up about it. Some people are just plain "BOLD". ----------------- ========================= "The Peoples Elbow" or "The Spinaroonie?. Cant decide which is the most electrifying move in sports entertainment!!! LOL
2Hostyl said: And GregLeg, I'm a bit suprised @ you. Do you not recall the day when we met @ CP I noted someone was partaking of "herbal refreshment" in the Millennium Force queue?
You know, I had completely forgotten about that incident until now. Which is surprising in itself :)
I've seen some amazing drug use. One of my acquaintances in high school was found passed out in the restroom with a vial of crack by her head. (so the story goes, anyway -- I'd moved out of that school by then). I really SHOULDN'T be surprised anymore, I suppose. I think what got my attention here is it was in the Nitro line, where my experience with the ops had been almost frightening in how ATTENTIVE they were.
BTW: I'm fairly conservative, but I think the USA needs to nuke the so-called "War on Drugs". It's pointless and a waste of resources; not to mention extremely unfair.
I couldn't agree more... Of course, I'm not quite as conservative ;)
But Chi, while on the surface it seems like an extreme risk, it really isnt. One: as pointed out, the majority of citizens wont trick to security. And even if they do, it's rather simple to get rid of a small amount of weed (just eat it, you'll still get a little high anyway). Furthermore, most police officers dont want to spend all the time on paperwork and what not for a small amount of cannibis. I've actually heard of cops directing a pot smoker to eat the weed instead of confiscating it and arresting them.
But then again, I dont see it as a big deal anyway. lata, jeremy --America is quite 'repressed' for a so-called 'liberal' nation
It's a bit audacious to just to that in quee (how the hell do you spell that?) but I agree with whoever said the War on Drugs should end. Getting altered with drugs has been one of the elements of life for pretty much the entire history of humanity. Obviously, there's some human drive at work here. doesn't make sense to try to stop it.
I'm not surprised. This past season @ my home park, we have either smelled or seen somebody smoking pot 4 or 5 times. The first time, I could not believe somebody could be that ignorant. I don't know what it takes for people to not smoke in line. We have to announce that there is no smking in line almost every 15-20 miuntes. It's posted all over the queue, I just don't get it......
I have strong opinions about legalizing weed, but to smoke up in line is unnessacary and very inconsiderate. It really is easy to get away with smoking weed in public, it happens all the time at concerts I attend especially if your just smoking a blunt. Cops can be pretty lenient about it, too. Also, the whole notion of Afganistan supplying the weed is very false, I have heard only oppy or opium and cocaine are grown in that region. Supposively, the Taliban has 72 million pounds of opium and get a lot of there wealth fron dealing. Another point is that many important people in the US rely on money from South American cartel and other dealers. also, it is not like all the drugs are grown outside the US, Vermont and New Hampshire have many "Farms" that grow weed, hemp, shrooms and opium. so if your going to partake in the herbal refreshments, than at least support the US economy by buying some quality american dugs grown in the beautiful hills in New England. :)
The War on drugs is a joke, nothing substanial has ever been accomplished and is just a waste of tax payer's money. There will always be cartels or organization dealing drugs to the US, as long as there are people with an abundance of money willing to buy it. Right now thankfully, we are concentrating on the War against Terrorism and the security of all US citizens.
Man, what a depressing thread. There are just some things that are bad for society. Drugs kill people. They ruin lives. Anyone who says otherwise is totally kidding themselves. You can bet if I saw some low life smoking pot in line, they'd leave the park in handcuffs. It's the responsible thing to do.
----------------- Joshua Wilcox "The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant. However, the population is growing"