Geauga Lake auction dates 6/17 & 6/18

Who cares when/how/what/who it was planned? It doesn't matter anyway. It was probably just the next available slot Norton had open when Cedar Fair contacted them.

I'm thinking of taking my daughter up to Darien Lake this summer, since there are some similarities between the two parks. Maybe it'll seem a little bit like her old summer hangout.

Only better since they have Superman. Or whatever they're calling it these days.

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Jeff said:

...Internet audiences are so used to guiding the conversation that now they throw tantrums when it doesn't align with what they want...
No one is willing to explore the intricacies of an issue anymore, they just want to have an emotional response and call someone names.

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Any guesses as to whom I thought of when I read that paragraph?

Rock on, Noble! That's what I was looking for! Great post!

I found that much more interesting than, "You are a crazyhead if you think something like that is true!"

Edit - let me add that i 100% agree with Jeff that GL was not a very "nice" park. The infrastructure seemed outdated for what the park was trying to become. The cluttered layout along with narrow paths that led nowhere is a good example.

The park was almost okay, but not nice.

Whatever they can auction off may become better appreciated in it's new home. *** Edited 3/17/2008 4:20:02 AM UTC by LostKause***

I just want to see a local company, like Waldameer and/or Kennywood, purchase some of the family classics that are hard to find elsewhere, like Haybaler and the Beaver Creek Mine Ride/ex-Roadrunner Express family coaster !

^I still don't understand why CF isn't moving Beaver Creek Mine Ride to another CF park.

How old is that coaster? Like 7 years old? And it's a family coaster.

I always found that odd. Surely it could have gone to one of the parks as a great attraction for families, like Michigan's Adventure or Dorney.

I thought Beavercreek Mine ride was moved to Cedar Point as an addition this year... If not I am sad as that is a great ride. *** Edited 3/17/2008 1:25:22 PM UTC by CoasterDaddy***

Nope, CD....It's still for sale...it was never part of the Looney Tunes Boomtown/Kidworks Playzone anyways.

I agree: BCMR is a nice little ride. I guess one interesting question is: which park could best use it?

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Rock on, Noble! That's what I was looking for! Great post!

I found that much more interesting than, "You are a crazyhead if you think something like that is true!"

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That's sweet of you, but my post was just a much more long-winded way of saying "You're a crazyhead if you think something like that is true!"
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BATWING FAN SFA said:

That reminds me of just how many SFAW fanboys that said they'd never patronize another SF park again after SFAW closed in 05 & yet look at how many have returned in the two full seasons since then.

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Not sure where you get your info? I still visit the SFAW WWW tribute site everyday. Most of the club did not say they were going to ban SF's park's. The reasoned the person that caused the failure was gone.

I used to visit SF's parks about 30 times a summer including FT ands OT, and then one major new park trip a season. I was one of the few to actually say I will not go to SF's until they sell. I have been to FT once because it free and had a friend beg me to take him. I will live without them. I also know many of my friends that no longer to parks but they never vowed they would not. It just happens.

Big scheme of things were a small drop, but SF's did loose a lot of loyal customers killing AW. It is more damaging than people realize.

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Agent Johnson said:
What a coincidence. lets see how many ACErs show up to disrupt the action.

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Some good points have already been made, but let's also imagine how many members of ACE there are, how many are in Ohio, and how many will be in Georgia. I'm sorry to tell those brilliant minds at CF that there will still be plenty of enthusiasts in Northern Ohio despite the event 700 miles away.

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CoasterComet said:
What's up with bashing ACE??

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Welcome to Coasterbuzz! ;)

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Agent Johnson said:
or did Cedar Point deny some local die hards another final chance to walk the sacred grounds of Ohio's second most storied park.

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Cedar Point didn't deny anyone anything. It's a choice to go to the auction or go to the event, and, again, it's not like EVERY ACE member goes to these things, especially not ones 700 miles away.

Also, just curious, what makes GL Ohio's second most storied park? Is there a hierarchy here I wasn't aware of?

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RatherGoodBear said:
Any guesses as to whom I thought of when I read that paragraph?

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I'm not good with reading passive-aggressiveness or subtlety online, if you're adding to the discussion here I'd love to partake but at the moment I'm feeling left out. I'm being serious, no snark.

Loyal season pass holders who got in 30 times for $45?

Matt,

I've just noticed that for some people here, any mention of something that disagrees with their point of view is a "tantrum" or an emotional response. I've seen a lot of name calling fired off between discussions of business practices and number crunching as well.

Discuss intricacies of an issue? Only if you agree with their point of view.

That's been a major thing around here, almost as long as it's been popular to bash ACE members for being poor, overweight homosexuals with no other hobbies. I can't even begin to count how many times I was accused of throwing a tantrum when I disagreed with a popular opinion, especially one that was shared by some of the "who's who" of the Coasterbuzz community. I'm not suggesting that's happening here, but it has happened in the past. I don't see that changing anytime soon, so I guess there are two solutions to the problem- either learn to deal with it, or stop posting.

Again, I get at what AJ was suggesting, even if the timing of the auction is purely coincidental/accidental. I wouldn't fault anyone for connecting it to an event at a nearby Cedar Fair park, so I really don't understand all the cries about another conspiracy theory being hatched. If this were Mythbusters, I'd define it as "plausible". That said, I stand by what I said earlier. Give ACErs an opportunity to ride coasters and I guarantee 99% of them aren't going to think twice about a park auction, even if the park happens to be Geauga Lake. As pissed as I am about the whole situation some six months later, I know that I'm not going to drive a few hundred miles to attend, whether my intention was to buy something or make some kind of statement. I'm certain the same can be said of all ACE members outside the Cleveland area.

Plausible? You can't be serious. You actually believe that a corporation that wants to dispose of its assets is worried about what members of a fan club are doing that day? Even forgetting for a moment that said club isn't going to do anything to piss off the company that hosts countless events for it, I'm amazed that you would ever think it's plausible. "They" could make whatever stink they wanted... it won't change the outcome.

^^I haven't really heard that one, Rob! Kinda funny.

I know alot of ACE members that are skinny homosexuals that have lots of money :) Either way, why would that be a bash?

I mean, that's like saying this site is full of a bunch of snotty, higher middle class, sarcastic yuppie types?! Don't matter :) It's takes all kinds to make others look goofy ;) Plus, were all humans with our faults (admitted or not).

Would it be plausible to assume there are lots of overweight coaster geeks, a high addiction rate (to whatever the substance, not necessarily street drugs) and generally come with a 'touch of the crazies' b/c we are 'big T' personalities? Or tend to be? It's kind of interesting if you look at that.

Cedar Fair knows they are greedy. Everything is money to them. There is little room for humanity, historical rides, etc., that some of us have a soft spot for. They have gotten more and more extreme over the years. It's too bad, but hell, their parks are run well... Rides ain't all dat dough!

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bash ACE members for being poor, overweight homosexuals with no other hobbies.

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Actually, I'm rather well off financially. ;)

Sure it's plausible, because a great number of things are plausible. Considering how Cedar Fair seems to have gone to great lengths to ignore questions about their decision to close the park- including many questions from enthusiast groups- it's entirely plausible that Cedar Fair might have arranged for the auction to coincide with an enthusiast event. Maybe they want to draw attention away from it, and since Norton had a bunch of available dates, it made sense to schedule it that way? Again, I said it's plausible. I never said it was likely.

^^ That's been a common ACEr stereotype for years. As an 18-year member of the organization that's married, financially-comfortable, of average weight and maintaining a great number of hobbies outside of amusement parks, I'm proof that stereotypes often fail to represent the truth. But if there is an "enthusiast stereotype", I have a feeling it extends to all amusement park enthusiasts, including people on this site. I doubt that ACE is the enthusiast organization for the weird ones while the upscale "cream of the crop" gravitates to Coasterbuzz.

*** Edited 3/17/2008 7:36:24 PM UTC by Rob Ascough***

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RatherGoodBear said:
Discuss intricacies of an issue? Only if you agree with their point of view.

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We've gotten into this as a group before many times but the problem is the difference that's attached to what the cool kids say (Jeff, Gonch...we know who they are) and what they're *actually* saying.

If Jeff (as an example) dismisses your opinion as nonsense, or dumb, or harebrained he's just one guy, it doesn't matter if he runs the place or not. It's this constant offense to differing opinion that holds conversation back here, instead of progressing it. I mean if I think an opinion is dumb this should be a place where I can say "No, that's dumb, here's why" and then have someone offer up why what I typed was dumb, too. Look at what I quoted above - it's like you're implying that someone is actually keeping you from discussing. That's a long way from one person dismissing or counter-arguing a point.

None of this is directed at you at all, Goodbear, I just think some of us tend to get sucked much more into the drama then the actual discussion and a lot of it just smacks of the school cafeteria with the cool kids table and the uncool table. *** Edited 3/17/2008 7:40:20 PM UTC by matt.***