Formula Rossa takes the crown but it looks rubbish (POV)

Friday, November 5, 2010 1:33 AM

ApolloAndy said:
Not sure where you got those numbers from, but that seems even further off.

I made a size ratio from TTD to Kingda Ka, and then to Rossa's speed. I know it's not an actual estimate of it, I was just showing how the previous user probably came up with their guess

And my first guess of 600ft was rounded down from 616ft with the ratio which was also arbitrary

Regardless, unless we have the actual friction factors, vehicle weight, and so forth, it's all just guestimating anyways

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Friday, November 5, 2010 12:17 PM
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The vacuum tube thing might make it hard on the riders.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 12:29 PM
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^^ but the point is that using a ratio here is mathematically incorrect, even with the correct friction numbers.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 1:38 PM

Watching the POV it's painfully obvious that the rest of the layout was supposed to be 10-30mph faster. The turns are huge, the hills are flat, and the final brake run is LONG.

This is simply an issue of them having a few too many fins up on the hill, probably purposefully to reduce the wheel melting that has plagued i305.

If i305 can't handle going 90mph through a smaller turn in moderate climates (they were melting even when it was cold outside pre-trims) then this thing CERTAINLY can't handle the 100mph or so it's meant to take that course in sandy/HOT desert weather.

Intamin needs a new wheel compound and fast!

EDIT: To those of you that think this layout would be boring at around 100mph... I think you're crazy. This layout is boring because it is running slower than it was supposed to. At breakneck speeds those turns would be intense, you'd fly over the hills, and the bunny hops at the end would have airtime.

Last edited by RollrCoastrCrazy, Friday, November 5, 2010 1:50 PM
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Friday, November 5, 2010 2:25 PM
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Since that *other* thread referenced Nitro - yes, those ending bunny hops would (could? should?) be awesome if taken at speed. But, like Nitro, if you shave off about 8-10mph, those bunny hops suddenly become "up and down meandering trackage".


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Friday, November 5, 2010 4:40 PM
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I find a lot of out and back coasters to have "up and down meandering trackage" after the block brakes. Why cant they all be more like the ride that they were inspired by, Magnum?

I'll never get to ride this, so ho hum. lol


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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:58 PM
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LostKause said:
I'll never get to ride this, so ho hum. lol

Why so sure? There's so many reasons to visit Dubai!


Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:49 PM
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Someone stole my money tree that I had planted in the back yard, darn it, and I had big plans too. :p

I am now wondering why coaster enthusiasts in the U.S. are so interested in this coaster, when most of us can't afford to travel to the other side of the world, or would rather get more amusement parkage for the money here in the States.

Or maybe I am generalizing too much here. Question for those living in the U.S.: Would you rather use your yearly amusement park budget to go to several amusement parks in the U.S. (possibly some that you may have never been to), or would you rather go to Ferrari World to ride Formula Rossa?

I really don't think that the coaster is all that and a bag of chips. If this new park and coaster was a 6 hour drive for me, I might consider a visit, but I would also be considering other parks instead. I felt the same way about TDD when it opened. I didn't visit the park until a few years after it was built.

(Everyone is different.)


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Friday, November 5, 2010 11:25 PM
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I'm sure that the die hard enthusiasts who make a point to travel to several countries a year strictly to visit parks would make a point to ride Formula Rossa. I, on the other hand, would probably stop in if I happened to be vacationing in Dubai. And, as I've mentioned several times, the coaster wouldn't be the primary reason I'd visit Ferrari World.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 11:39 AM
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Personally, I'd like to do a solid amount of coastering in Europe prior to making the trip to Dubai. That said, I have a few more summers of what willl probably be only US road trips. Hoping to attend the Con for the first time this summer since it's being hosted in an area I have yet to visit.


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Saturday, November 6, 2010 8:25 PM

Coaster Crazy commented on Intamin needing a new wheel compound. I agree and it really shouldn't be all that hard to do. Goodyear does it all the time fof NASCAR.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 6:10 AM

Reminds me of a faster (launched) version of S:Ros with those big banked turns and bunny hills before the brakes etc, REALLY is that the layout of some F1 tracks? I think not:P Whatever though, Ride of steel is taller And a longer ride (time wise) and does about the same, just slower apparently.


S:ROS = <3
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Sunday, November 7, 2010 3:54 PM
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I'm impressed (or surprised) that Ferrari World has actually taken a step forward in protecting their guests from eye injury by making goggles mandatory on this ride. Ummm, Knotts... are you paying attention?


- R.A

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Monday, November 8, 2010 1:17 AM
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Knott's isn't launching people 150 mph in the desert with sand blowing around either. And they're not launching people 150 mph either. Did I mention that?


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Monday, November 8, 2010 2:18 AM
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LostKause said:
I am now wondering why coaster enthusiasts in the U.S. are so interested in this coaster, when most of us can't afford to travel to the other side of the world...

...

Or maybe I am generalizing too much here.

Maybe. :)


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Monday, November 8, 2010 11:25 AM
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Thanks Mfivs. That was exactly what I was getting at with the Knotts comment. They have slower launched coasters, one from the same manufacturer, and this type of ride is known to have sprayed riders with debris. Yet they still they do not allow ANY type of eye protection.


- R.A

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Monday, November 8, 2010 11:58 AM

Corkscrew Follies said:
Coaster Crazy commented on Intamin needing a new wheel compound. I agree and it really shouldn't be all that hard to do. Goodyear does it all the time fof NASCAR.

Just wanted to point out that rubber compounds are not the same as polyurethane compounds. There are limitations of both types of materials. It is possible, although unlikely, that there are no other polyurethane compounds that would be suitable to fix the problem. Just want to use the racing tire analogy for a second though and take a look at a dragsters rear wheels. Not too long ago dragsters were constantly ripping apart their tires due to the faster and faster speeds at which they were going. It took a long time to get the correct compound that they have now, I'm sure finding a new polyurethane compound is just as hard.

Also I have noticed alot of people mentioning Dubai, Ferrari World is located in Abu Dabi, which is about 120 kilometers (~75miles) from Dubai. I don't know if Dubai was being used for convenience or not, but just wanted to point that out.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 1:13 PM
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No, I got the crack at Knott's... nevermind.


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Monday, November 8, 2010 8:27 PM

I'll probably never ride it, but it still looks like a ton of fun nonetheless.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:17 PM

Rick_UK said:
Why so sure? There's so many reasons to visit Dubai!

Point of fact, people -- Ferrari World isn't in Dubai.

Ferrari World is in Abu Dhabi -- which is one of the seven Emirates that make up the UAE. The other six are Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman, Umm al-Quwain, Ras al-Khaimah, and Fujarah.


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