Flashback, Sky Tower, Freefall to reopen BY Springtime

And that's my point. I've said this before, but no one else in my family has ridden anything that CP has installed since 2000. No one.

And we're a family that travels to amusement parks!

As for the 4th quarter profit, Halloweekends certainly helps, but they've been going on a long time at CP, and by themselves were never going to generate a 4Q profit for CF. It helps to have a couple of properties that can draw year-round: Knott's, its resort hotel, and Castaway Bay.

Remember: CP lowered admission in response to falling attendance and changing demographics. Fewer people were finding the park a good value. Maybe it's because there hasn't been much installed in the past six years to draw the whole family?

Compare CP's installations to PKI's, and you'll see what I mean.

Don't get me wrong, I *am* a CP fanboy, but everything is not wine and roses in Sandusky, and even management realizes this.

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macho nachos said:
I could give a crap about this new focus on the family....I'm sitting here as an enthusiast(a coaster enthusiast not a park enthusiast) thinking "Is the golden age over"?

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I checked your track record and you're way short of having a record where you could be honestly jaded. You only have 123 coasters listed, and most of those are at major parks [I apologize for not having my 151 listed. I do plan on becoming a member one of these days]. I'd give you a pass if you haven't updated your track record. There are so many parks that you haven't been to.

How about Knoebels for example? For someone who claims to be an enthusiast, to not have ridden the Phoenix points out what a lightweight you are at this point. When are you planning on going to New England so you can ride one of the best steel hypers (S:ROS) and one of the best out-and-back woodies (Boulder Dash)? I don't say any of this to be mean, but to point out that you've got a long way to go.

Coasters don't have to be new to be golden. There are tons of small parks across America that have hidden gems to be ridden. And once you run out of coasters in the U.S., you've got Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, Africa and Japan to conquer. *** Edited 2/20/2006 2:08:24 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***

"I am FAR from a CP fanboy...and this is NOT trying to start a MM/CP debate...but CP at least has a varied collection of flats, shows, and attractions that the family can enjoy TOGETHER. SFMM has virtually none of that..."

Well SFMM is the *extreme* example. Most SF parks are a better example of attractions that appeal to everyone. I'm not sure I'd put CP in that category either. Some SF parks have a better variety than CP does IMO. So the fact that Shapiro wants *even those* parks to have a better variety, must mean he'll be workin overtime to shore up SFMM's collection of flats, shows and "non coastery" things. ;)

Intamin Fan, my track record and Knoebels don't have anything to do with Six Flags' "No More Goliaths" mentality.
Maybe if Knoebels had a street address to plug into Mapquest we might have swung by there last summer while in Pennsylvania. ;)
Concerning my track record, it is up to date but I promise to work hard and make you proud someday! ;)

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Brian Noble said:
Don't get me wrong, I *am* a CP fanboy, but everything is not wine and roses in Sandusky, and even management realizes this.

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I'm sorry, but any *real* (non-self-respecting) fanboy would NEVER admit that anything is less than 110%....please hand over your credentials...LOL! :)

Curses! Foiled Again!

I don't think a track record has anything to do with considering himself a coaster enthusiast. when I was 12 I had only 20 or so coasters under my belt. I was just as much one then as I am now.

"OMFG!!! YOU haven't even been to BGT??? How can you even call yourself a coaster enthusiast when you haven't even rode KUMBA???"

That sound silly, doesn't it? No offense intended, I Fan

I think what Mr. Nacho's is trying to say is that he is more of a coaster enthusiast than a theme/amusement park enthusiast.

It's all about tact Mocho.

Oh...and SFMM sucks...lol.

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Intamin Fan said:

How about Knoebels for example? For someone who claims to be an enthusiast, to not have ridden the Phoenix points out what a lightweight you are at this point. When are you planning on going to New England so you can ride one of the best steel hypers (S:ROS) and one of the best out-and-back woodies (Boulder Dash)? I don't say any of this to be mean, but to point out that you've got a long way to go.

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Hell, by this standard, despite having nearly (maybe even over, I haven't kept good count lately) 200 coasters under the belt, even *I* would not qualify as an enthusiast, since I havent ridden any of these (and none are in my immediate plans either).

See, RGW, I *told* you I'm not one of y'all! ;)
lata, jeremy

Why am I suddenly hearing Peter Gabriel's "Not One of Us"? ;)

jeremy, you make it to SpringCon, we'll get ya on the twin to *your* RoS....it'll make you a better enthusiast... :)

Once more, with feeling....coaster count, whether it be for a park or an individual, means NOTHING! Why does it take a FOOTBALL guy to show the way?

I may have roughly twice as many coasters as jeremy, but I'm only half the man he is... ;)

:)

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Intamin Fan said:

How about Knoebels for example? For someone who claims to be an enthusiast, to not have ridden the Phoenix points out what a lightweight you are at this point. When are you planning on going to New England so you can ride one of the best steel hypers (S:ROS) and one of the best out-and-back woodies (Boulder Dash)? I don't say any of this to be mean, but to point out that you've got a long way to go.

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Is there a list of certain coasters you have to have ridden to not be considered a "light weight"? Or is it just limited to those three? I'm not being rhetorical here, I'd really like an answer.

Actually RGW: I *have* been on the twin. I also rode that pile of tinder waiting to happen known as Predator. That was way back on '02! :)

LOL, and you *still* don't feel a need to get to SFNE? ;)

Meh, go ride Nyquil.... :)

I'm hoping SFMM really shows that they're taking steps on the road to this "improvement" we're hearing so much about...I'll let ya know in a few short weeks...

P.S. That first ride on Predator, front-row, made me wonder why there's so much complaining...every other row/ride made me stop wondering...but I'm going back in May, this time SPECIFICALLY to get the last of the *holy triumvirate*... ;)

First off, I'm not the Nytol (helps you get your Zs) fan, that's Antuan. I'm the Bull fan. As for SFNE, meh, I'm really not that excited. I hear it's great and it may well be, but if I miss out on it...so what. Really, right now the only coasters that I'd *really* like to ride are Thunderhead and Tremors. Both of which, suprisingly, are actually on the radar for this year (well, that is one or the other but not both together).

Bull's even sleepier than the snoozefest in Jersey, go for the gold (standard). I can't even IMAGINE how much braking it would take to make an RoS feel like a Beemer...;)

As for Thunderhead or Tremors, that *is* a tough call. While I think Silverwood's got the better WOOD, knowing how YOU feel about, say, BGW, HP, etc., I think Dolly's got the better overall *package* for you...plus it's easily doable in a weekend trip, while Idaho is, well, in Idaho... :)

I now pronounce this thread hijacked ;)

So, anyone see Flashback run yet?

For those that haven't been keeping up, Sky Tower has been completely repainted and a good portion of Revolution has been repainted as well.

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