If it was up to you, where , when and why, would you move the Flashback at SFMM to? Just curious to see just how many people actually like this ride. Now I have rode it in all 3 locations at which this ride has operated. Also it was my very first roller coaster ride. I don't know about all of you, but I find it to be a very good ride. Personally I wish that they would sell the ride to Cedar Fair L.P. and place it at ValleyFair in Minnesota. Only an hour away from me :)
I enjoy Flashback very much. I have learned over the years, how to ride it in order to avoid headbanging. The most pressing problem is paint. It deperately needs a new paint job. It looks depressing over in the corner, all rusted and worn out like that.
After that, they need new trains. Preferably w/o OTSRs. Also with Raging Bull or Apollo's Chariot type lap bars.
Lastly, it needs a new location in the park. During the summer it cannot be run because of the proximity to Hurricane Harbor. I'm sure they can find space for it somewhere else, since it's so small, perhaps indoors, as some have suggested.
Whatever happens, I hope it stays at SFMM for a LONG time. Long Live Flashback!! The worlds ONLY Space Diver!
I rode it when it debuted as Z-Force at SFGAm. I found it to be a unique ride but I never really got into it that much. From what I have heard this was the first 4-across seating on a coaster along with the first and only diving coaster ever created. This was Walter and Claudes first creation when they worked for Intamin and ultimately started their goldmine company known as B&M today(with there official coaster being Iron Wolf). This coaster could actually be the start of what B&M has blossomed to today. So in theory to all the B&M lovers out there, treat this coaster as the one that started it all.
Yeah, I heard a rumor (possibly off of thrillride?), that it was going to be moved back by psyclone. They said they would get new trains without over the shoulder restraints, and would be painted black. They would then name it blackhole or something like that. It is one cool ride, and since I'm so tall and my head is above the restraints, it doesn't hurt me AT ALL! Anyway, I don't know how true that rumor is, but it sounds good.
I've ridden it as Z-force and Flashback as well, and don't find it to be worth more then 1 ride per visit. Moving it into a dark building and themeing it a bit (maybe "near misses" of some sort) and removing the OSTR's would be just the thing to make it a decent ride, but I can't see SFMM investing too much money in a ride that old.
This ride needs only one thing, removal of the OSTRs. If that happens, I would ride it on every visit (assuming it actually is open). Once the pain factor is diminished, I could virtually guarantee this would become a more popular ride.
I also have a feeling that all of the other rumors (moving to the back, enclosing, re-theming) was either bogus to begin with or put on hold until 2002.
I think that this (or any other) one-of-a-kind ride should be kept up as much as possible.
------------- So you want a coaster in your backyard? I hope you have a big backyard.
I just asked this on the CA Coster News strand...but I'll ask it here too. I cannot remember the ride at all, can someone explain it to me, the pictures on the CA Coaster News site, do not give it justice. I see one inversion and a hill. What other elements are included on Flashback??
I like Flashback. It offers a very unique experience and it's a shame that it doesn't operate more often. Hopefully, by next year, Flashback will be one of the improvements done to the park, so I'll keep my fingers crossed! I wish they'd just relocate the damn thing within the park (maybe next to Cyclone 500/Psyclone).
Wow... how funny that someone dug up this old thread.
Lifthill310 said: Moving it into a dark building and themeing it a bit (maybe "near misses" of some sort) and removing the OSTR's would be just the thing to make it a decent ride, but I can't see SFMM investing too much money in a ride that old.
I loved the coaster when it was Z-Force @ SFgam - maybe even more than Iron Wolf. New trains with lap restraints would be fantastic, and riding it in complete darkness definitely pump up the thrill factor.
The more i think about it, putting the ride in a dark enclosed space would be really cool...kinda like Space Mountain but more suspensful due to the long flat sections in the ride. There could be some stars amd other galactic effects. Maybe project a giant space battle (like Star Wars) on the walls. It could be a neat update to the Star Tours ride in that regard. But first, GET RID OF THE OTSR'S. I got my one lap at the ACE Con back in `93ish. That was enough until they fix it.