Fisrt Drop yet not the Largest Drop?

Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:49 AM
Can anyone think of coasters where the first drop is not the largest. Amazingly Kennywood has two: Phantom's Revenge and the Thunderbolt - in fact the largest drop on the t-bolt is the last one.

Don't count the small drops out of the station that take you to the lift hill?


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Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:03 AM
Cyclops, Big Cheifs.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:07 AM
The raven gets close, but not quite.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:11 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the first drop on the Beast is 135 feet, while the last drop into the helix is 141 feet. Of course the angle on the last drop is 18 degrees, so I'm not sure if it really counts as a "drop."

I saw an old drawing of a coaster from the Golden Era, an out-and-back with a turnaround that dropped *way* down into a valley. I think the book said 150 feet...*much* larger than any other drop on the ride. I can't remember where it was though.
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:59 AM
I forget where it was too, The name of the coaster was The Blue Streak. I have a book at home with a pic and info on that one.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:01 AM
Don't forget about Kennywood's Jack Rabbit.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:03 AM
I believe the Screamin Eagle at SFSTL is one. The third drop is the largest, I believe. Well, that isn't counting the little turnaround at the top of the lift hill.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:06 AM
Your right Den almost. The second lift drop is 144ft. Any elevation change is considered as a drop. So there for, you were right!
-Charlie Weingartner

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:11 AM
Hmm... is Kennywood's Exterminator's first drop the biggest? I doesn't really seem that way, but I'm not sure.

That'd make 4/5 of Kennywood's major coasters fall into this category. ;)

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:35 AM
Many B&M's could sneak into this category. That little dip at the top is an elevation change and after the lift hill.
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:04 PM
Quite a lot of Arrow coasters as well...the Cedar Creek Mine Ride at Cedar Point comes to mind. And how about the Big Dipper at Camden Park...or for that matter, any coaster that has a turnaround at the top of the lift hill before the big drop.

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:08 PM
Le Monstre at La Ronde in Canada.
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:11 PM
What about the coaster at Camden Park? I forget the name right now!

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:55 PM
You're right Pumpkin Head, the third drop on the Screamin Eagle is the largest. The drop goes down into a ravine. Not sure what the specs are though.
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:26 PM

Lynch said:
"Hmm... is Kennywood's Exterminator's first drop the biggest? I doesn't really seem that way, but I'm not sure.

That'd make 4/5 of Kennywood's major coasters fall into this category. ;)"



Actually, ALL of KP's coasters do this:
Jack Rabbit: 3rd hill is biggest
Racer: 2nd hill is biggest
T-Bolt: last hill is biggest
Revenge: 2nd hill is biggest
Exterminator: 2nd hill is biggest

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:45 PM
Racer was the only one I was unsure about. I wonder if Lil' Phantom's first drop is smaller than the second... ;)

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:25 PM
The Mine Ride at SfStl. The first drop seems like it is two feet tall! The best drop is the one into the tunnel, but it still wasn't that good.
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:42 PM
PKI-
Vortex-dip into drop
Beast-last drop
SOB-dip, skip, and drop
FOF-last drop
Top Gun-dip, turn, drop
KC-dip, turn, drop
AdvEx-2nd drop
Face/Off-1st drop, 2nd drop, 3rd drop ;)

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Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:49 PM
That last drop on the Beast, does it get to ground level? Because if it doesn't, it wouldn't count.

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Looking for ideas... *** This post was edited by APForce on 4/19/2001. ***
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Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:02 PM
Could SOB be included? It is about a 60 foot drop from the station to the base of the lift, and it is steep enought to be a real drop.

I think the the second drop is also the big one on Manhattan Express in Vegas.
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