Feeling safe with accident at SFNE

Monday, February 21, 2005 3:05 PM
It kind of worries me a bit. I know there completely safe, but I go to Darien all the time and I just want to know if you guys out there think Intamin has taken the proper safety measures. ? ? ?
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Monday, February 21, 2005 3:16 PM
Personally I worry more about the people running the ride than Intamin.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 3:20 PM
I've never felt not safe on a coaster. If you sit correctly and lock your bar and belts correctly you have nothing to worry about what so ever. With SFNE you have no worries you will be stappled into the seat.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 3:38 PM

eightdotthree said:
Personally I worry more about the people running the ride than Intamin.
I totally agree. While we can reasonably guess that there were certain design flaws in various incarnations of their restraints, at the end of the day it's people that can do the most damage.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 3:50 PM
You don't have to be worried about the ride ops if you just use some common sense and use the restraints provided. It is not that hard. The only thing you might not know is that the T-bar is supposed to be a lap-bar and not a gut-bar. If it is hitting your tummy and not your legs you should not ride.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 7:08 PM
With the mods SF has made to all 3 superman hypers I think you can rest assured that you're not gonna go flying out of the train if you're restraint is properly secured & checked by the ops.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 7:18 PM
RavenTTD: All of those things you mention are well and good, but it is not my job nor the job of the any of the riding public to worry about that. Rider responsibility is important, but the ultimate authority for determining if a ride passenger meets the requirements for riding and if the restraints are being used to secure the riders as designed lies with the trained operators.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 7:33 PM

RavenTTD said:
You don't have to be worried about the ride ops if you just use some common sense and use the restraints provided. It is not that hard. The only thing you might not know is that the T-bar is supposed to be a lap-bar and not a gut-bar. If it is hitting your tummy and not your legs you should not ride.

Well that can't happen now and the measures taken were overkill.

It's pretty bad when a SFDL op tells you it was the ops 100% and everyone has to pay for it in extra belts and rediculously small seatbelts.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 7:56 PM
Yep, overkill is a good way to put it. Or "covering the a**es of future negligent ride ops" would suffice.

Even with the old system, I felt safe, but the new restraints took a bit of the greatness of SROS out.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 7:59 PM
The thing that scares me about those Intamin SM coasters are the brake runs. I hate coming into the brake run and seeing another train right there, or being in the station waiting and having that train stop right behind me.

On MF at least there is some bleed.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 9:29 PM
Chainlift just don't worry about it; if that's what you mean.

Yea Intamin has had accidents, but just about every one has. SaS had the vertigo collapse I don't see many people questioning their safety measures. *** Edited 2/22/2005 2:30:25 AM UTC by GIGAFORCE01***

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Monday, February 21, 2005 9:46 PM
Maybe because it was a collapse that happened during the offseason with no possible injury to the public? If that S&S upcharge attraction took a tumble with riders on it, they would be under the same microscope.

Name one B&M coaster that had a fatality that was the result of restraints? *** Edited 2/22/2005 2:47:54 AM UTC by Chitown***

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Monday, February 21, 2005 10:20 PM
He did say "just about every one" ;)
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Monday, February 21, 2005 10:46 PM
As an enthusiast, I've gone on hundreds, if not thousands of laps over hundreds of different coasters. As an enthusiast, you should know the right way and the wrong way to ride a coaster and part of the right way of riding a coaster is pulling down the lap bar to your lap (not leaving a few inches for extra air-time). Seems like a simple enough concept, yet its the reason for the most problems on coasters. Just follow the rules, do what the signs say, use the restraints properly and enjoy the ride. Coasters have proven time and time again that mile-for-mile, they are one of the safest, if not the safest form of transportation out there. Like the old saying goes, you're hundreds of times more likely to die on your way to the amusement park (driving on the highway, flying in a plane, riding on a train, walking through the parking lot) then you are likely to die in the amusement park.
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Monday, February 21, 2005 10:58 PM
I felt safe on both of the SROS I've ridden (SFA, SFDL). At the time, I was 6'4", 350lbs, and a 48" waist. I am now in the process of losing weight so I can ride MF and TTD. I am down to 285 and a 44" waist. I still need to lose about 2" in the thighs be able to ride MF. Even now though I would feel perfectly safe riding any of these rides.

Jeremty

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Monday, February 21, 2005 11:19 PM
Vertigo probably would not have collapsed if it had been in operating condition will all of it's rigging on. The extra rigging would have broken up the harmonic vortexes that resulted in it's collapse. See the discussion from shortly after the incident.

I really have no concerns about Intamins restraints as they are today. Of course, I'm not of exceptional size.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 11:30 PM
Eightdotthree, I agree with you one hundred percent. The brakes accident, could have been fatel, however I do feel ass though the seat belts are an excellent idea. Having the seat belts attached to the waste restraint and the seat itself is perfect. Even if that waste restraint ever failed to give way, the seat belts "on both sides", should be very safe.
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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:25 AM
****smartass alert on****

Just don't ride it if you're overweight, emotionally/mentally challenged, have been told NO before, or have any type of disorder that is life threatening. You should be fine.

****smartass alert off****

Personally, I blame the ops. Wasn't there. Don't care. It's what I've heard, and I believe it. It's all too sad, if you ask me.

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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:04 AM

Johde said:
I felt safe on both of the SROS I've ridden (SFA, SFDL). At the time, I was 6'4", 350lbs, and a 48" waist....

No offense, but you were risking it a bit too much in my opinion.

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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:54 AM
and if he sat down, pulled the restraint down flush on his thighs, the seatbelt fit, he woulda been no more liekly to be thrown than your skinny butt.

No offense. But of course the other 3 million fat people that rode if beforehand were all risking it according to intamin.

*** Edited 2/22/2005 6:56:09 AM UTC by Charles Nungester*** *** Edited 2/22/2005 6:56:59 AM UTC by Charles Nungester*** *** Edited 2/22/2005 6:57:40 AM UTC by Charles Nungester***

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