What's next, everyone getting an itinarary when you buy your admision ticket to the park? Will it be an itinarary that what will list what ride you should go to at a certain time? COME ON! The whole part of riding a coaster is the build-up, adrenaline building, heart pounding and enthusiasm while waiting in line. But i do have to say its a great idea on trying to keep lines short and people out in the park more. So its better then fast pass because its like a South Park episode where there was the regular line and a even a "fast-pass" line and lines everywhere. I did see build-up of lines just for fast pass near the end of the season. ----------------- I may be from IL, but i sure can't get enough of the FORCE. MF!!!
Patrick, I do agree with you but since these systems are in place I would tend to lean toward the Lo-Q system. ----------------- Im going to grab a cold one! WHAT? Walk to my computer! WHAT? Turn the thing on! WHAT? Log on to Coasterbuzz! WHAT? I said log on to Coasterbuzz!! WHAT?WHAT?WHAT?
So what Chitown, but why do u hate me so much. Is it just because it is that good enough of a point that i posted a while back. ITS TRUE! ITS TRUE! Why do u try to attack me soo much about things, if u want to play your games again just e-mail me instead of this. ITS TRUE! ITS TRUE! ----------------- I may be from IL, but i sure can't get enough of the FORCE. MF!!!
IL_MForce_Junkie said: "The whole part of riding a coaster is the build-up, adrenaline building, heart pounding and enthusiasm while waiting in line."
If lines are so integral (what) to the park and ride experience (what) then tell me why (what) when Disney did their market research (what) that included guest surveys (what) the biggest complaint of guests (what) was "Lines too long". (what)
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IL_MamaForce_Junkie, did you just thay you LIKE waiting in line? Tell me you did not just thay that.... EDIT: Anywho, I do prefer a philosophy of doing other things while you wait in line rather than pay your way to wait less. ------------- Is it the roar of Kumba or the kumba of Roar? Discuss!
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I agree Chitown, if I had to pick one, I would pick Lo-Q over fastlane big time. I just don't like the system becuase without extra money, your screwed. I'm a student right now, paying for my tution by myself. I use great america (believe it or not) as a low cost use of entertainment. I buy myself and my girlfriend a season pass, and we go whenever we are bored. It costs a few bucks for gas, we pack a lunch, and drink water all day. It ends up to be a pretty cheap thing to do and it takes up an entire day. I wouldent care about the system if I had the extra money to use it, but I don't. I guess its kindof a selfish reason.
Whats with all the Whats?? (cough: WWF :cough) ----------------- Out of the coasters i've ridden here is wat i rank them overall:(ive been to canobie lake and SFNE) 1. S:RoS 2. Yankee Cannonball 3. Riverside Cyclone 4. Canobie Corkscrew 5. Thunderbolt 6. Galaxy 7. Mind Eraser 8. Dragon coaster 9. poison ivy's tangled
1. I was extremly surprised that SFGA wasn't on the list to get Lo-Q and I'll be sure to bring that up when I visit next.
2. as has been point out, it is inevitable that there will be some sort of virtual queuing system so I, for one, welcome Lo-Q with open arms.
3. virtual queuing , contrary to popular belief on this board, was not created by the devil. it was created by all of us. whether or not we complain, we contribute to the lines which force parks to look for alternative means of speeding up the lines. and don't give me any of that crap that SF just needs to increase the capicaty of the rides 'cause that's bs. the capicaty of their rides is perfectly fine. I'm sure that the ops are trained well and if it was a capicaty issue, it'd probably be cheaper and more convenient to give the ops more training because, obviously, many people are annoyed by the queuing system(which is not what the parks are trying to do), but if the ops are trained the best they can be, then the only other option is to get a virtual queuing system.
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coasterjedi said: ... and don't give me any of that crap that SF just needs to increase the capicaty of the rides 'cause that's bs. the capicaty of their rides is perfectly fine. I'm sure that the ops are trained well and if it was a capicaty issue, it'd probably be cheaper and more convenient to give the ops more training because, obviously, many people are annoyed by the queuing system(which is not what the parks are trying to do), but if the ops are trained the best they can be, then the only other option is to get a virtual queuing system.
I respect your opinion coasterjedi, however I must disagree. I have waited hours and hours for coasters at SF parks when they were only running one train. They could improve capacity easily buy just adding more opperating ride units; it's just that simple. Instead of doing so, they implement some bogus and misleading "skip the line for a price" system. I've also seen SF ride ops move sluggishly slow compared to Cedar Fair, Busch, Paramont, and Disney park ride ops. I realy don't think that SF ride opps are trained "the best they can be". I am not speaking for all SF parks or all ride opps at those parks, but some or even most of them
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Actually they do give out itineraries at Sea World. It is printed and given to you as you enter the parking lots. It has the time of your arrival and the suggested time to see each show. Of course you dont have to follow it as they have the operating hours of everything. But it was really cool cause it was more of a suggestion versus a mandate.
Dexter, have you ever been to SFGAm--this thread is dealing with SFGAm, and from what I've heard people speak of other six flags parks on this site, SFGAm seems to have the highest capacity and overall best crews of the chain.
RARELY are the coasters run with less than two trains, unless of course they aren't complete circuit and by default only have one train.
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well my SF experience is limited to SFGAm, SFEG, SFDL, and SFFT(but that was so long ago that I don't remember it).
EG did an incrediable job of moving lines. obviously on the shuttles, there's nothing you can do. there was one thing that bothered me: they wouldn't let you stand on the platform of Sidewinder so that slowed down lines a little. Boomerang moved decently for a shuttle, though and the lines for all rides were really short for a day when the park was packed. and I mean packed. there was little to no room on the midways.
DL was completly empty when I went so I really can't comment on it.
GA has always been good about moving lines. I've heard many of my friends say, "don't ride Batman if its line is outside of Gotham Park" and when they're around, we don't ride it. however I've waited that long on several occasions and I didn't have any problems. the line was continualy moving and the wait, at the end, seemed like nothing.
running coasters with only one train is pretty stupid, but on low attendance days that saves money. now I could understand your point if they could have sent full loads out all the time and still had a line, but I've never experienced that. one time RB was running 2 trains with a line midway between the stairs from the queuing pens and the stairs into the staion and they put on a third train. that was something that I considered excessive. they didn't really need to do that, IMO. basically, I haven't experienced long waits on anything except the shuttles and flat rides so, from my point of view, the ops do a fantastic job of moving lines. so the virtual queue systems aren't really these horrible things that a lot of people here make them out to be. again, this is just my experience, but the waits at IOA were just about the same as GA. maybe I'm just lucky.
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does anyone know how far back the Fastlane idea went? I mean if you look at RB's queue, there's that little space betweent the exit and entrance that is now used for Fastlane, but before people didn't seem to have any idea what it was for besides vendors. I'm just curious how far in advance SF planned this thing and if they were planning it before, why not implement it earlier?
----------------- Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park