Example #1 (the "pay" versions)
Either:
A. Wait 2 hours in line
B. Pay 10$ and get on the ride instantly and/or shorter line.
Do you think that is fair? I don't.....
Example #2 (the "pay" versions)
I am about to get on S:ue at SFWoA... all of a sudden a Fast Lane person is waiting at the exit and I am instructed to get out of my seat until the next ride.... only thing is, there are more FastLane people, and our ride gets bumped back again, and again.... I waited in line, it was MY turn, I should get to ride....
Example #3 –
People who use the FastLane are not going to be unhappy, they have no right to do so.. The matter of fact is they are cutting everyone else (with the exception of LoQ)... regardless of which FastLane system is being used. There is always going to be come kind of "separation barrier" between people, almost like a class system... which isn't "right" in a theme park, in my opinion.
Example #4 - (pay version)
I am rich. For 100$, I can ride S:ros 50 times without waiting while everyone else has to wait (unless of course they "pay" to break the rules too). Oh well.
Example #5 –
Quote from SF brochure:
Line jumping, cutting in line, and saving places is strictly prohibited. Guests who violate this policy are subject to ejection from the park without refund. Please respect fellow guests and wait in line.
By using FastLane [Even LoQ virtual queuing] we are essentially "breaking the rules". Not only that, but apparently Six Flags wants you to wait in line for “respect”… heh, yea right… If you “bribe” them you are allowed to cut in line.
Example #6 -
If a FastLane (reserved seat/train) method is used, and there is no one to fill these seats, they go EMPTY. This is extremely annoying to see.....
Example #7 - (Reservation/Free version
Ok, Thunder Storms are near. A ride is shut down for an hour, and there are tons of people who were supposed to ride during the thunder storms... Instead, they block off even MORE rows to "normal guests" to accommodate for the ones with FastLane. We end up suffering in the process.
Example #8 - Whats next?
If people are willing to pay 10$ to cut in line, what will stop the park from making a 50$ all day ride pass? What will stop them from having you to pay to "break" other rules?
Some of the above you may agree with, some you may not, but the point is pretty clear, it can use a lot of work... either that or just make it back to normal. I do know that Cedar Point was actually smart, from what I have read they had a system for Millennium Force but ended up removing the system due to complaints and problems. Smart move. Why can't we all just be treated fairly with equality? I know a ton of people who refuse to go to parks now because of this (stupid) system.
To read some “horror stories” regarding the FastLane, you might want to check out: http://fafl.cjb.net/
To sum it up, I hate it. End of Story
Alan Jacyszyn
alan@coasterbuzz.com
*** This post was edited by sfdl dude on 9/18/2001. ***
Pay is bad. It is not worth it for most people. They get cut in front of by the rich people.
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But since the waits are not too bad in the first place, it works at Disney.
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SFGAdv's Fast Lane is free, but it really sux. See, at Disney, you are let into the line at a point where there is only about a 5 minute wait until you ride. You are able to choose your row. Whereas at SF parks, you have an assigned row. Very stupid indeed.
I didn't DARE pay the extra $10 at SFWoA when I went....I waited the hour for X-Flight and I did it twice during the day. Every other ride was 0-10 minute wait! x-Flight was the only ride that actually had a wait all day.
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I thought it would be fun to find an older thread to post this in, instead of starting a new thread called "What a difference no FastLane makes".
And no, I'm not complaining about FastLane, just an observation we made at Cedar Point yesterday (Thursday, July 16th).
I'm not sure why, but there seemed to be very few FL + sales. Crowds weren't necessarily light (the weather was perfectly fine all day). For example, the Maverick queue was completely full on the inside and just into that one lane around it. Typically this is a line we would avoid, as you're looking at about a solid hour, and we would simply move onto to something else.
However, the youngest mini-me (now 13, gulp) wanted to ride it, so we all said OK we will just wait it out. 23 minutes later we are on Maverick, and the line never stopped moving. During that time I counted exactly 19 FastLane plus holders go into the queue. (if you don't know, there is usually a constant full staircase-full or more at Maverick on a moderately busy day).
Valravn's queue was 2 rows deep into the larger switchback. Again something we would usually avoid. 7 FastLane + users (from what I could see). On in 18 minutes.
Top Thrill 2 was all the way back to the entrance (although it is a straight shot with no switchbacks). On in 30.
Rinse and repeat with Steel Vengeance.
This was the last day of a 5-day trip, and the amusement park gods were smiling down on us.
It was a reminder of how quick these lines actually move without a massive amount of FL+ users everywhere. (they were seemingly all in the Siren's Curse line which consistently had a 30 minute FL wait and a 60 minute regular wait).
And no, this isn't an anti-FastLane post. Just a flukey day that we got lucky to be a part of at the park.
But it does make one wonder; back in the 90's with only a few "major" jaw-dropping intense rides (for the time...Raptor, Magnum, Mantis, etc.) we happily waited a couple hours to ride them. But 1) attendance hasn't changed, and 2) the number of those "marquee" attractions has grown exponentially.
We just got to experience what the park would be like without it. For a day.
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Nobody likes waiting in line. I miss the old days when they didn't offer Fastlane, because I don't want to cut the line, and I don't want anyone to cut in front of me. It hurts my soul.
And parting with a hundred bucks or more hurts my bank account.
I have a prediction that they are going to start charging a lot more for Fast Lane once the new cheaper season pass prices go into effect all over the chain. I'm for it if it means less people will use it. But I'm also against it because it might make it less affordable to me.
So aggravating.
-Travis
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This isn't directed at anyone, I'm just thinking out loud.
Taken as a whole, the argument for higher ticket/season pass prices, but the elimination of skip-the-line seems... I don't know, classist? Like, we want parks to charge enough to keep out poor people, but we also don't want rich people to skip ahead of us in line? Some seem to argue that in-park fights, chaperone policies, and long lines are a result of low ticket/season pass prices letting riff raff into the parks. Whether or not this is true, I don't know, but the underlying premise seems to be that low prices allow undesirable guests into the park. But an all season FastLane Plus is ~$1,000, or ~$2.75 a day over a year. If someone can't afford a few bucks a day to skip the lines they despise, are they really any more high class than the hoards filling the queues?
I am always amazed how fast the lines move when FL (CP speaking) is closed (early entry / after close).
Personally, I wish it would go away at CP but I highly doubt that it is going to happen.
Any idea how much revenue it generates?
Some of my best visits to Walt Disney World in terms of getting a lot of riding in was the period during the pandemic when ride vehicle capacity was restored, social distancing was eliminated in queues, but they had not yet resumed Fastpass+ / Genie + / Lightning Lane. I vividly remember getting through Kilimanjaro Safaris extended queue in less than a half hour that would have been 90+ minutes during my time as a Cast Member at the attraction with old school Fastpass. I also remember a full Space Mountain walkway and queue taking around 30 minutes during that time that, again, would be 90+ under queue skipping conditions.
Mforcebob:
I am always amazed how fast the lines move when FL (CP speaking) is closed (early entry / after close).
This is why I posted the post. It was as if someone waved a magic wand and no one purchased FL. The Maverick line was especially eye-opening, as we usually avoid it like the plague. I never would have guessed it is only a 25 minute wait with a full queue-house. Only Siren's Curse was partially filled with Fast Lane.
I'm confident it generates enough revenue that it's not going anywhere. Genie/bottle.
It was great day.
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