Family of Spanish woman files suit against Disney for death following Indiana Jones ride

involving "patients" means involving doctors and those they treat...

What DO you do WHY ME?... whether we agree on here or not, I know that most posters are patrons and they know I was injured on a ride..

You work for a park? a manufacturer? a lawyer? are you a park saftey officer?

How do we know you indeed speak from experience?

WhyMe: If you are what you say you are then it would be far more helpful for us if you explain things instead of going on and on about what a moron one of our members are. Remember, you're dealing with a diverse audience that ranges from 13 to 80. Try educating them, then they won't be ignorant.

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Thank you Jeff for that. Anyway, I couldn't care less what he thinks of me. As I said, that's why I wouldn't want to become a doctor. In fact, you'd probably see my food being served to you from one of the restaurants in any park (If you get where I'm going). Yes I'm young, so what? I'm ignorant? Maybe, but I have had that experience. I've been stuck on Boomerang at Knott's. It's no big deal, and I thought it was fun to see that happen. If I died on a rollercoaster, I'd die happy, because I knew I did something that I loved. If most people don't like rollercoasters and things like that or are affraid to ride them because of the fact that they might die, then why are they there in the first place?

BB: I mean both patients and patients. As far as working for a park no I don't, I'm what they call an, "independent Consultant," but unlike the traditional amusement park, "safety," consultant I look at different aspects of the amusement park accident and ensuing injuries.. I'm not an engineer, but do work with one.

Ignorants isn't a bad thing and can be easily corrected all you have to do is read up on recent accidents and put 2 and 2 together. A lot of amusemnt park accidents are indeed the patrons fault, but a lot aren't so you have a 70/30 split in favor of the park patron..

I'm state licensed to do what I do, and have been at this for about 3 yrs. solid. I hope to be of help and BB or Jeff if you want to contact me you know my e-mail address.. but give me time interesting things are coming....

Why me:  There is no reason to not be civil in these forums.  The opinions expressed here are not always going to agree with yours or even be technically correct, but you can disagree or offer clarification without being insulting.

One thing that I will agree with "Why me" on is the causes of amusement ride accidental deaths.  There is a myth in the enthusiast community that most accidents and deaths are caused by rider misconduct.  This is not the case.

Only about 1/4 to 1/3 of  the accidental fatalities are caused by rider misconduct.  The balance of the accidnetal fatalities are caused by operator error, design issues, and poor maintenance. 

Often if you look at an incident in detail, you will discover that the real cause was a combination of these factors.  The recent death on Perilous Plunge is probably a good example.  While there is no final information available, the cause may have been a combination of less than ideal restraint design, the rider not using the restraints correctly, and the operators not checking the restraints.

But as for aneurysms, like many other medical conditions they usually have no symptoms other than sudden death, and they are not detectable by any routine medical tests.  The tests required to detect many conditions simply are too expensive or too high a risk to justify their use unless there is a good reason to perform them.  CAT scans are expensive, and you sure don't want to have to go through the cost and risk of a heart catherization unless you know that you have a heart problem.

Very good points Jim, I'm impressed.. What isn't looked at is that fact that there are more then just Roller Coaster related injuries and accidents, more then often all of the injuries take place outside that "major" roller coaster, and that's what a lot of people don't think about. What isn't being reported as well ae all the injuries happining on a daily basis, there are literally hundreds of injuries at a park in a given day. There is a lot of injuries going around just not being publicized as much, but in due time they'll be brought up to the forefront and solved.....

Thank you for clarifying the biggest park myth..the rider being at fault for the majority of accidents...that is one of my primary reasons for being "pro-injured person" when we learn of accidents and comment here on CoasterBuzz.

WHY ME, I do not have your email addy, but would like it.

CT scans run about 4,000 dollars...on adverage..that doesnt include the doctor's fees for reading them ( a nuero-surgeon is often brought in to consult with a radiologist so add two additonal fees) and issuing a report for the ordering physician... when they are looking for brain issues, they inject the PT with a special dye..while the images are bring taken.

CT scans are often run in conjunction with a PET scan..I know little of that proceedure first hand.

They (the doctors) usually order the CT scan when there are SYMPTOMS PRESENTING that are pointing to a problem in the cranial cavity.

This test is only used when warrented... so do not think you can just ask your DR for one on your next check up...and dont even think that this test will be administered to patrons at parks! (just saying that for the next youngin who thinks that they will suggest this test to be available at parks in part of their next comment).

It should be a law that you have to be in good health condition to ride the rides. People seem to getting killed all the time and it bugs the heck me. Before I go on a huge ride I keep telling myself I can't get hurt but when I say that I am just lying to myself, I could really be killed. When I was at the top of Perlious Plunge I told myself I can't get hurt, but when I hit the water I started to fly forward and tat really hurt my stomach.
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Legislation should not take the place of common sense and responsibilty.

WE do not need more laws in this country, we need those who are responsible about certain situations to act with consciousness and accountability.

If they did .. many of these accidents would not be an issue.

I agree 100% BB on legislation vs. common sense.

The cost of a basic CT scan of the brain has come down considerably.  My daughter had one last year and it was considerably under $1000 with all doctors included.  Still this is way too much money to include in a regular physical.  Plus of course, it does have at least a small risk factor due to the radiation involved.  The dye tests up the cost considerably though I believe.

Why me: 

Yes, I suspect that most of the injuries that occur at parks have nothing to do with rides.  Most of the injuries are probably associated with the normal daily activities of walking and moving around, especially since for many people it is more extended activity than they are used to.  I also suspect there are a lot of heat stress problems since most park activity is in the summer months.  My personal worst park injury was a bruise from being hit by a trash cart.  (Still too minor to require treatment.)

I strongly suspect that if we had the specific data, we would find that more people die from heart attacks while walking down the midway than from ride accidents.  But there is no reason to collect reams of national data on this.  I also suspect that there may be as many accidental deaths in parks off rides as on.  And, I'm absolutely certain that the most dangerous part of the whole park visit is the drive to and from the park.

hey i work for six flags and i can say honestly that the goliath accident was not blamed on the ride but they did sue us for a huge amount of money but i have heard that coasters are not dangerous but people ride at their own risk their are signs posted now warning guests to ride at thier own risk