Dueling Dragons Referb??

Sunday, January 5, 2003 3:51 PM
I am heading down to IOA next week (1/8/03) and heard that Dueling Dragons was scheduled for referbishing "early in 2003", but does anyone know for sure? I have never been to IOA so I would really hate to miss out on them!!!

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 3:55 PM
They said It was gonna be closed the first of the year but it wasent so will just have to see.

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 4:15 PM
Ice is already down as of yesterday. Fire is schedule to be down when attendance goes down. This will probably be tomorrow.

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 4:42 PM
Any guesses on how long the coasters will be closed? Do you guys think they will be back open by the end of Februaury because that is when I'm taking a trip to FLA.
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Sunday, January 5, 2003 4:44 PM

From what I understand (very reliable sources) early Feb is when it is scheduled to be reopened.

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 4:53 PM
Hold the phone! Rewind! Why is it being refurbished?

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:02 PM
I think its more of a maintenance period like at Knott's and SFMM than a refurbishment.

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:07 PM

Painting too...also, they're gonna do some work on the lake and lay down some grass as well

EDIT: It should be called REHAB not REFURB

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"...they came like a winged curse. A twin plague of demonic dragons!" - Dueling Dragons

*** This post was edited by CsTrFrK on 1/5/2003. ***

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:09 PM
There's the word I was looking for: rehabilitation.

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:09 PM

Yeah. You get those all-season parks and the rides take a beating. Unlike any park that gets an offseason, they have to find a non-peak time to perform maintenance.

On that note - if you want to ride Space Mountain at Disneyland, now may be the greatest time to go. :) (I'm hearing that it'll be closed from the summer until NEXT Christmas because the track's in such bad shape.)

These things happen...

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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:17 PM
The track is so bad, it is going away :)
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Sunday, January 5, 2003 5:44 PM
Well, if they really think they are going to replace the track entirely, I would think it will not return as the same layout. Hopefully something cool like the DLP version. This of course, would coincide with the 50th anniversary celebration at Disneyland.

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Monday, January 6, 2003 1:18 AM
But it's a classic. They shouldn't just change it. It should have landmark status or something. I bet they are just redoing the track.
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Monday, January 6, 2003 12:48 PM

CsTrFrK, where did you get your info? Are you sure that DD is down?

I was planning a trip to Universal later in the month, and don't want to miss Dueling Dragons since I've not been there since IOA opened and haven't ridden it before.

I got off the phone with IOA Guest Relations minutes ago, and the woman who I talked to said that the only attraction down currently was the Sinbad show.

It also seems odd to have a signature attraction down this month since there is a major amusement industry (AIMS) convention there next week.

I'd really like to get this straightened out before I go. Any info would be helpful.

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Monday, January 6, 2003 12:54 PM
Dueling Dragons gets this every year, just 2002's got pushed back a few months. Shouldn't take that long. I'd expect Ice to open around the begining of Feb. and fire a week or two later.

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Monday, January 6, 2003 1:39 PM
I live right next door to IOA, plus Legendary was there yesterday and told me...plus another friend of mine was there yesterday and told me.

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Monday, January 6, 2003 2:07 PM

Well, just to clarify the Space Mountain thing, because it is sort of important...

Miceage.com reported (this was a late December article, and I think still on the homepage) that Disney DID want a completely new ride experience. They wanted to do something that would make it unique and give people a reason to wait for it.

Unfortunately, due to monetary reasons, (and the way the building is - VERY small - as it had to be built as to not overshadow Main Street. Much of the ride actually sits a few stories or so underground) Disney will more than likely NOT be getting an entirely new ride, but the same layout with some new technology. (I.E.: LIMs where the chains and catapults previously were, but used much like California Screamin's MAIN hill, as a slow, silent, lift to the top.)

But Disney thinks that this technology overhaul will be invisible to the public (they're right), so they want to pay for a new queue experience and ride pre-show that will be based on Stitch (yes, from Lilo and Stitch).

In my opinion, stupid, because I sort of liked the Tomorrowland idea before - break with the cutesy Disney movies and give a semi-serious look into the future.

Besides, as the article mentions, most fans of the movie are too short to ride anyway. :)

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Monday, January 6, 2003 4:13 PM

Take anything from that site with a good helping of salt. Apparently, Al Lutz was tossed from Mouseplanet, and that is his new site. I don't trust him at all (not to mention his constant negativity). Besides, he said DL's Splash Mountain would get OTSRs. Moron.

The way I see it, if they spend millions to redo the track entirely, they won't just keep the same old layout. The Stitch thing is a lot of BS. Perhaps it was discussed in concept, but I doubt it got much further than that. I would count on something akin to the Paris version.

And by the way, Vekoma has never made a ride with a LIM lift hill (not to say that they couldn't, but still).

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*** This post was edited by CoasterFanMatt on 1/6/2003. ***

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 8:00 PM
Just got back, and Ice is down now and not going anywhere. There is theming parts of the Ice trains all over the maintenance/storage station. It says in the park map that the entire ride is closed January 17 until February 5. Enjoy it now. It's a good ride, but sort of missed the "dueling" part. Oh well, I'll get back there someday!!!

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:14 PM

If its a rehab, why don't they just close 1 of the tracks, and then close the entire ride for 72 hours as they diligantly paint, fix up the queue, and check up on the PLC. Thats how supreme scream works. I don't think all 3 towers have been down all at once for one operating day (so that would be 6 days since 1998 that it was closed, Christmas and Sept 11th) since it opened. Knotts is smart. They have spare trains for all the rides (ghostrider, perilous plunge, jaguar, monte, bommerang, timberline twister, and to a certaint extent the Log ride & calico mine ride & the bumper cars & xcelerator & bigfoot rapids). They rehab the spare train when they have time so its nice and fresh, ready to be exchanged quickly for an older train (gone on Ghostrider recently- the silver train), and then they don't have to work as much on fixing up the ride all in 2 weeks. Rehabs take a lot less time this way. On Xcelerator, they take one train off the tracks to be rehabbed before the rehab, and the do the rehab, open the ride with 1 train operation (big deal on xcelerator, yeah right!), and then add that one onto the tracks later. They may not be able to run 3 trains on saturdays this way, but having a 10 minute longer wait is better than having several rides closed.

Now disney...... They take too long to do everything. They're replacing a suspension bridge or three in a big DCA play area, and its taking them a whole month. They're only doing this. And they're working sooooo slowly on Tom Sawyers Island, estimated to be back fully in time for the 50th. But then disney rehabs are a lot different. When they refurb the matterhorn they rescafforld the rock, work on the trains, the queue, everything. Right now they're draining the rivers of america to fix some stuff up. it will open back up 6 months later. LONG REFUBS

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