Do you have a smart phone?

Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:50 PM
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There is a mobile app for CB, it's only on Windows Phone at the moment.


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Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:06 PM
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HTC Evo 4G on Sprint.

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Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:27 PM
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Thanks Jeff and to answer the question, I have a HTC Evo Shift 4G on Sprint

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Monday, November 14, 2011 9:54 AM

Jason Hammond said:
There are some real nice task killer apps out there that can help with that.

I seem to have missed this, but in an effort to correct some misinformation (as Jeff did with some of my perceptions of WP7), you shouldn't be using a Task Killer with any Android-based phone (at least, not one running Froyo or later). I almost guarantee that you're making your phone's stability/performance suffer, and that the task killer itself is probably using more battery than the apps you're killing would be anyway. This article explains it all rather nicely.

If your phone is really hurting for battery life and you can't or don't want to fool with rooting your phone (which is 100% un-do-able...), my recommendation would be to pay more attention to what radios you're using (bluetooth/GPS/wifi/non-SMS data), or get an app like Juice Defender or Tasker and have it do it for you.

Case in point, I have a toggle widget on one of my homescreens that, when enabled, automatically turns off all non-SMS or phone-call related data and associated antennas whenever the phone's screen is off. With the toggle on, I easily average ~30 hours per charge with moderate/heavy use, on an old(?) Droid X with its large screen and year-old battery. That said, I rarely feel the need to enable the toggle, because as it is I'm usually in the 16-20 hour range, which is more than enough if I'm charging the thing nightly.

To summarize - don't use task killers with android, and if +2-day battery life between charges is a priority for you, maybe just don't get a smartphone.

Last edited by BBSpeed26, Monday, November 14, 2011 9:54 AM

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Monday, November 14, 2011 11:06 AM

Task killers are useful for one thing: Killing a misbehaving app.

Using them to kill all tasks or kill tasks on a schedule is not very useful.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 11:19 AM

Jeff said:
The idea that you need such an app is the opposite of consumer friendly.

I don't think Android's rather incredible success requires much in the way of consumer friendliness. In fact, I think it's Android's ability to do so much out of the walled garden (so to speak) that plays a role in that success.

Not everyone wants or needs a grandma-friendly iPhone/WP7. :)


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Monday, November 14, 2011 12:07 PM

Tekwardo said:
Welcome to the best iphone ever.

FTFY :)

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Monday, November 14, 2011 12:16 PM
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djDaemon said:
I don't think Android's rather incredible success requires much in the way of consumer friendliness. In fact, I think it's Android's ability to do so much out of the walled garden (so to speak) that plays a role in that success.

No, Android's success can be attributed to cheap and sometimes free phones, and nerdy phone sales people who say things like your quote. :)


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Monday, November 14, 2011 12:48 PM

Additionally, I think Android's success has to do with offering a robust OS for free to hardware manufacturers. This keeps the price down to user & the margins higher to the hardware & phone companies. Although, it does resemble the drug dealer methodology.

I have an iPhone 3GS. I seem to be on the nadir of the upgrade graph when the cool stuff comes out :(

/mike


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Monday, November 14, 2011 12:56 PM

Jeff said:
No, Android's success can be attributed to cheap and sometimes free phones, and nerdy phone sales people who say things like your quote. :)

You might be right. Which begs the question, why isn't MS doing more to get inexpensive/free phones out there? It's not like MS is shy about spending money to make money.

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Monday, November 14, 2011 1:15 PM

I would attribute it more to (the subjective opinion) that, of the four main smart-OSs, it is the closest thing to having a hand-held, full-featured personal computer in the palm of your hand. Full directory access, ability to use like a flash drive, desktop user agent emulation for those pesky websites that cut features on mobile browsers, etc.

And to chime in again...

Task killers are useful for one thing: Killing a misbehaving app.

If you have an app that you know to be misbehaving, why not find an alternative? I almost guarantee that one exists that is better/written by someone who understands Android resource management. If that's not an option, app management -> force close works just fine, no task killer needed.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 1:55 PM
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invy said:


Tekwardo said:
Welcome to the best iphone ever.

FTFY :)

Hey, Siri tells me where to find all sorts of odd things, and even offered to help me bury a body. I think that's quite funny.

So far, I'm impressed with it.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 2:15 PM

My buddy's favorite Siri-ism is to loudly slur, "I just want to get druuunk" at it. Siri then politely suggests bars and liquor stores in close proximity.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 2:17 PM
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LOL nice. I asked it the other day if it was legal to stab someone if they were being an a-hole and she yelled at me for language. I then asked if it was OK if they were being a dick, and she recommended 2 different mental institutions.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 2:46 PM
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Raven-Phile said:

invy said:



Tekwardo said:
Welcome to the best iphone ever.

FTFY :)

Hey, Siri tells me where to find all sorts of odd things, and even offered to help me bury a body. I think that's quite funny.

So far, I'm impressed with it.

LOL. I just ported Siri to my wifes Iphone 4. Works great. I also just read that Apple is considering Siri for the Iphone 4.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 3:06 PM
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djDaemon said:
Which begs the question, why isn't MS doing more to get inexpensive/free phones out there? It's not like MS is shy about spending money to make money.

That's the thing, they are, they just aren't doing a good job with the marketing. Some of the initial phones were on sale at various points for free (or a penny). In fact, the new Samsung Focus Flash 4G is a penny right now on Amazon Wireless. That's fairly awesome.

The marketing is weird. They spent all kinds of money in NYC, but for what? Android got traction by way of Motorola pushing Droid, which had a halo effect that pushed to all Android phones. WP hasn't seen something like this, and Microsoft hasn't had any really clever advertising yet. The generic HTC and Samsung phones don't really stand out in any particular way. Maybe things will change when we find out who will sell the Nokia's in the US, because they're dominating on preorders in parts of Europe already.


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Monday, November 14, 2011 5:29 PM
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Everyone must ask SIRI for some Hookers and Blow. The response is amazing.

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Monday, November 14, 2011 6:04 PM
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Best discovery I have made in a while. I cracked up for a good couple of minutes.


R.I.P LeRoi Moore 9/7/61 - 8/19/2008
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Monday, November 14, 2011 8:25 PM

VZW users, got an Android for my wife in June 2010. I loved using it...until I finally got my VZW iPhone in January. iPhone is. Way. Superior.

iPhone just seems a step above. The feel of the phone, the smoothness of the finger swiping (Android seems laggy and less smooth). The quality of the apps. iTunes. I would never consider anything else. The Retina display (have you seen it? it's still amazing after 11 months!).

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Monday, November 14, 2011 8:32 PM
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'd say right now I like my iPhone a lot because it's different. For the most part, though, they're equally great phones.

The iPhone, however, is going to integrate with my Apple TV that I just ordered. :)


R.I.P LeRoi Moore 9/7/61 - 8/19/2008
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