Do synchranized coaster count as one or two?

Monday, November 22, 2004 10:39 PM
i was pondering one night, and i was thinking do dueling coasters count as one coaster or two coasters. (for those who do not know what i am talking about ex: Gemini, Colossis, or Dueling Dragons)
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Monday, November 22, 2004 10:44 PM
That's up to you.
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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:06 PM
It's all up to you.
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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:11 PM
Is S:TE a coaster? Is an overbank an inversion? Why do we park on the driveway and drive on the parkway? Did time start or has it been going forever?

Questions that have no answer.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:35 PM
well what is it ofically to a park? thats what i want to know someone has to have better information then that
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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:51 PM
If it really matters to you, you may just care too much.
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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:57 PM
Well Gemini and DD aren't exactly the same. Gemini is basically the same coaster with trains running side by side, but Dueling Dragons is totally different. It has 2 totally different coasters with different elements at different times.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:11 AM
This type of thing can be debated until Hell freezes over, and in the end it never mattered to begin with. I count some dual-track coasters as one coaster, others I count as two. Why? Doesn't matter why. You can count them however you want.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:20 AM
Exactly. The parks can't agree on it. SOme parks say two, some say one. If it really matters a lot then it's time to step away and find another hobby :)
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:36 AM
I count each train I ride in as a seperate ride. If trims are off, then it counts again. I have 6 credits on Magnum alone :)

-Gonch
current track record up to something like 2500

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:40 AM
And then there was that thread about counting No Limits coasters. I've got credits that no one else can have since I made them myself. And now with RCT3, I can make even more...
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:51 AM
I count any coaster's name that I typo as a new coaster as well. I have credits on Millenium Force, Milenium Force, Milennium Force, and Millennium Force.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:59 AM
One word: LoCoSuMo

I count credits according to capitalized letters in the abbreviation. Thats 4 right there.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:03 AM
I also double count all of Clint's coasters.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:08 AM

MForce Aholic said:
well what is it ofically to a park? thats what i want to know someone has to have better information then that

OK, here it is: On page 32 of the Enthusiast's Guidebook, it says that racing coasters count as 3, because *everyone* knows that the more credits you have, the more important you are.

Page 33 of the guidebook says that dueling coasters count as 1 multiplied by the number of times you can see the other track.

Those are direct quotes from the pages of the Enthusiasts Guidebook. Its as *official* as it can ever be.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:14 AM
But on pg. 35 under "Kiddie, Dragon, Caterpillers, Miller, Molina, and Bradly Coasters", it specifically states that those only count as a half credit under the "kiddie coaster clone act of '74". I think that Veko kiddie coasters are up for addition on the next ammendment.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:28 AM
You can debate it and find interesting things to say about it, but the answer is so simple. You count racing/dueling/twin coasters as 2. Why? It may be the same ride and one structure etc., but it is 2 different coasters. If you have 2 identical spoons you don't call them one. Same with coasters. When the park asked for the coaster they said we don't want one we want 2.
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:39 AM
Yes, but using that same logic, MrX, could you argue that a racing coaster that shares the same layout, support structure, etc. and needs both sides to make 1 complete coaster experience?

Most of these types of rides have names like Racer or something similar denoting two. I mean, the coaster name "Gemini" or "Racer" hardly makes sense if it's a single tracked ride.

If you have a fork, you don't count each prong as a seperate fork, it takes all 4 prongs to make one complete fork.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:00 AM
Actually, the asnwer is so simple. Count them any way you want. As one or two, its up to you(hey, that rhymed!).

Coaster counting is only important to yourself and Paul Ruben. In the grand scheme of things, it dosen't matter. Everyone has their own way of doing it.

Though I've never ridden it, I count S:TE as a coaster, I count Racing coasters like Rebel Yell and Thunder Road and PKI's Racer as one coaster, but I'd count Gwazi or Lightning Racer as 2. But thats just me.

Basically, if RCDB has it listed, then its a coaster. The only time I differ from them is on Dueling Dragons, Gwazi, LR, Stampidia, and racing/dueling coasters where the layout is completely different. But, again, thats just me. I also count my 1 fairground coaster (my first Anton!) in the 91 coasters I've ridden.

YMMV.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:09 AM
LOL. As many times as this subject comes up, it's still so easy to get caught up in it...

My only point is, stripping anything down to the absolute basics reveals 2 coasters. If the "ride" or "attraction" needs both coasters to complete the experience, as is the case with Gemini or Racer, then surely it makes sense to call the whole thing one single "ride" or attraction", but not one coaster. Putting one title on the whole attraction makes the 2 coasters part of one entity of course, but they are still 2 different "coasters". If you were getting a material list together to build the 1 attraction "Gemini", how many coasters would you put on that list?

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