dive loops on inverted coasters?

Monday, June 24, 2002 1:51 PM
i personally cant think of any inverted coasters that feature a dive loop (and no, half of a batwing doesnt count). anyone know any reason why this is? just imagine the view from the front on a dive loop, it would rule!
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Monday, June 24, 2002 2:24 PM
Isn't a dive loop just B&M's name for a half batwing? At any rate, Talon has whatever-it's-called.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 2:37 PM

no, talon has an immelmann, a dive loop is similar but is performed the other way. so, you enter the half corkscrew first and then go down the dive loop towards the ground.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 2:48 PM
Until recently, only sit-downs had dive loops and only inverts had immelmans. That trend was broken by Superman : Attracion del Acero, it is a floorless with an immelman. I don't know why no inverts have dive loops, but you're right, it would be cool.
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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:03 PM
A dive loop is the same thing as a bat wing, because batwings enter the corkscrew then a half loop then another half loop then a corkscrew.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:19 PM

SFGA2001, there have been Sidewinders / Immelmans on above-track coasters longer than inverteds. The first was on PKD's Anaconda in 1991.

And, counting a Boomerang / Batwing as an inversion of its own, no inverted coaster currently features a Dive Loop.

Let it be known that there are variations to the inversions, so there is some confustion - A true Immelman reverses 180 degrees, a Sidewinder 90, and a B&M-type Dive Loop reverses 180.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:28 PM

Wait, doesn;t Kumba have a dive loop that reverses 90 degrees?Like right here: http://rcdb.com/installationgallery94.htm?Picture=1

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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:32 PM

Blast Coaster said:

SFGA2001, there have been Sidewinders / Immelmans on above-track coasters longer than inverteds. The first was on PKD's Anaconda in 1991.

And, counting a Boomerang / Batwing as an inversion of its own, no inverted coaster currently features a Dive Loop.

Let it be known that there are variations to the inversions, so there is some confustion - A true Immelman reverses 180 degrees, a Sidewinder 90, and a B&M-type Dive Loop reverses 180.

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Actually Ninja at SFStL would have the first immelman since it was built in 1986.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:37 PM

Would you really call that element on Ninja an Immelman? It seems more like a half cobra roll which I just don't consider an Immelman. If it is one, then I guess I just have this B&M Immelman image in my head. And Ninja's doesn't fit my Immelman image. Back to the original post though, that would be an awesome sensation with the view.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 7:44 PM
I always explained an immelman as a half loop followed by a half twist, not a corkscrew. A half loop followed by a half corkscrew is a sidewinder as someone mentioned.
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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:59 PM

a dive loop is exited at 45* to its entry but half a batwing or whatever exits at 90*...........

same with immelmans

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Tuesday, June 25, 2002 1:03 PM

see the last pic of traumatizer on this page, this is prob as close as you're currently going to get laurence...

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*** This post was edited by colin mcwilliam on 6/25/2002. ***

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Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:33 PM
Blast coaster, where is there an immelman on Anaconda at PKD?


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Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:18 PM

Anaconda has a sidewinder (half cobra-roll). It's the 2nd inversion

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