Disney sues DeSantis for using government to retaliate against the company

Chicago07:

Good God, njbill. You are in over your head. Just give it up. As one example, you quote the lawsuit Disney filed and their comments around HB 1557 - the don't say gay bill - but your comments indicate you believe Disney is talking about the Reddy Creek legislation in that particular passage of the lawsuit.

Such a perfect example of Trump-ism.

I enjoy a debate with people of varying perspectives but people like you who can't even get the most basic of facts right and live in alternate realities - are tiring at best and a threat to our democracy at worst.

See above. You seem to be the one with a lack of understanding here.

Good job assuming everyone you disagree with or thinks Biden is terrible is a Trumper tho.

Except it wasn’t revoked it was heavily modified but still exists. That entity entered into a legal contract with the WDC prior to the new board taking over. You can’t just cancel a contract like that. They could simply dissolve RCID and it would go away but then the bonds become the counties problem and no new special district could be created without landowner approval.

I'm skeptical that a quasi govt agency can delegate it's powers to a private corporation to avoid state takeover but I guess we will see

It’s not a quasi government agency, it is a government agency. It’s a weird way to do things but extremely common in FL and for that matter nationwide (HOAs.)

njbill:

...is my understanding.

Which isn't very good. The Constitution is not negotiable.

If it is analgous to an HOA it is laughably not a federal matter and belongs in state court. I

Jeff:

Which isn't very good. The Constitution is not negotiable.

You keep yammering about 1A. It is settled case law that you cannot sue the legislature because MUH FREE SPEECH if the law on its face does not infringe free speech and courts tend to stay out of it.

Also the fact that they listed the 1A complaint last is a signal that TWDC lawyers think it is their weakest argument.

Settled case law? In what universe? I have an entire textbook of examples of why you're wrong. This isn't suing the legislature, it's challenging a law they passed. It's the foundation of the way the three-branch government works. Did you not have even a basic civics class in high school?

njbill

Yesterday, 3:26 PM
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What is rock solid is their contract law case though. Govts can not void contracts they willingly entered into ip post facto.

Reedy Creek was created by statute. One that included a clause that the legislature can opt out at any point, is my understanding.

"The obligations of a contract long have been regarded as including not only the express terms, but also the contemporaneous state law pertaining to interpretation and enforcement." US Trust v New Jersey (1977).

The contract includes the revocation power as a term.

This is what DeSantis originally did in his weak, thin-skinned, vindictive, anti-economic growth response - revoked the district. Then he realized - oops - that puts hundreds of millions of dollars in tax liability and debt onto the local taxpayers!

So Ron had to "unrevoke" what he did - but now place state-government appointed individuals on a local government board - because he and his lawyers aren't the brightest. Isn't a bedrock principle of the GOP free market principles and little government regulation? Not in Ron's world. The state continues to take more control.

njbill

See above. You seem to be the one with a lack of understanding here.

Good job assuming everyone you disagree with or thinks Biden is terrible is a Trumper tho.

You quoted a passage of the Disney lawsuit that referenced Disney wanting HB 1557 repealed or struck down in courts. 1557 is the Don't Say Gay Bill. Yet you took the passage you quoted to mean Disney was referencing a bill around the RCID and ran with it and then doubled down.

Basic MAGA behavior.

*steps on to soapbox*

This is degrading into a Facebook comments section on a local news article with the “here’s my point {insert insult}” posts. I like Coasterbuzz because it’s NOT that.

*steps off of soapbox*

The Onion, of course...

Disney Employees React To Attacks From Ron DeSantis

Goofy Beats Ron DeSantis To Death With Crowbar

“I don’t see how he can call us woke with our rich history of antisemitism.”

That one made me laugh.

Jeff:

Settled case law? In what universe? I have an entire textbook of examples of why you're wrong. This isn't suing the legislature, it's challenging a law they passed. It's the foundation of the way the three-branch government works. Did you not have even a basic civics class in high school?

I gave you the precedent

O'Brien and Kensington. When a law is constitutional on its face courts are reluctant to look for motive why it was passed.

Can Exxon sue Biden for cancelling the Keystone pipeline? That was almost entirely political....and must have involved contracts voiding after the fact and such,...

Listing the 1A claims last is an indication that even TWDC believes this is the weakest argument...

I honestly think the equal protection claim is their strongest.

You're falling into a trap where this feels unconstitutional therefore it must be. That is not how the law works

Whatever dude. Your lack of understanding is not my flaw.

Regarding New College, it's interesting that parents call out the nonsense about parental choice, which the DeSantis board effectively overrides. But as we know, this has been about freedom it choice, it's about consolation of power.

Board votes to sue Disney.

I love how DeSantis keeps talking about "the will of the people." I don't know what people he's talking about, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Floridians that care, or for that matter, have any standing at all in the matter. I can't wait to see what exactly the complaint is gonna be. "Disney made us look silly" can't be it. If it's because they don't like the contract, Disney will move to dismiss on Constitutional grounds. Or maybe the judge will decide to wait on the federal case.

None of the articles that I have seen in regards to the countersuit have any detail as to what the suit is. I agree it will be interesting.