Different Coaster Manufacturers

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:37 AM
I am starting a collection of all the roller coasters I have ridden on in a database and I wondered how many different manufacturers's coasters I have actually ridden. Out of the coasters I have devoured, I counted 14 different manufacturers. Just wondering how many different manufacturers's rides you have? Here is the list that I have:

Arrow, B & M, CCI, Curtis D Summers, Hopkins, Intamin AG, Morgan, Philadelphia Tobaggan Coasters, Rauerhorst, Schwarzkopf, SDC, Vekoma, William Cobb & Zierer.

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Skol Vikings

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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:50 AM
That's a loaded question, because many coasters were designed by one company and built by another. For example, the B&M guys probably designed SFMM's Flashback and the Cobra @ LaRonde, but they are technically "Intamin" coasters. Or are they Giovanolas?

Summers designed a lot of rides, but as far as I know, on;y built Carowind's Thunder Road. Dinn built most of Summer's coasters. Then there are coasters that Dinn and Summers partnered on but were designed by other designers.

I'm not trying to be a wise-ass... I'm just saying that it is easier for me to classify my track record by designer instead of builder. You may have a more diverse "portfolio" if you do things that way!

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-Rob
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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:01 AM
Would I get that off the Roller Coaster Database website?

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Skol Vikings

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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:41 AM
Yes and no. RCDB is pretty good at specifying who built vs. who designed, although there are, at times, omissions.

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-Rob
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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:56 AM
Yeah, I see what you are stating now with the designer vs manufacturer, I will have to redo this and see what happens now. Thanks for the tip.

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Skol Vikings

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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:24 PM
If you really want to get technical, you can track down the designers for all of the CCIs you have ridden, as many have designed CCI rides (McNulty, Bill, Miller, etc.) I don't go THAT far- I classify a CCI as a CCI, but it is interesting to look at your track record and see how many different designers are responsible for the coasters you have ridden.

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-Rob
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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:40 PM
Let us not forget the incomparable John Miller, the Vettel family, Carl Phare, Herb Schmeck,Fred Pearce and Prior & Church.
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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:00 PM
OK this is a toughy.

Well we can simply thigns by putting Schmecks, Allens, and Millers all as PTC, then we have Summers and Dinn, RCCA, Six Flags, Intamin, B&M, Arrow, Vekoma, Zierer, Chance, Zamperla, CCI, GCII, Schwarzkopf, Hopkins, Morgan, Cobb, Togo, Premier, SetPoint, Miler, Fetterman, SDC, Pinfari, Overland, Mack, Reverchon, S&S, and Mauer Sohne.

I think thats it.at 29 makers whew!

And to cloudy thigns up even mor, I thinkg Werner Stengal has designed for at least half of those companies. Most of the Beemers, Most of the Intamin's, a good portion of the Schwarzkops, and even a woodie or two on that list have been designed by him.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce 9/11/2003 12:03:23 AM ***

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Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:15 PM
Isn't SoB one of Stengal's illigitame children, Brent?

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:41 AM
With so many coasters, I'm sure that Stengel has quite a few illegitimate children!

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-Rob
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:22 AM
I guess I have some more manufacturers coasters to conquer then. I am planning on going to Schlitterbahn and SFFT in 2005 and might throw in an amusement park next year on my honeymoon.

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Skol Vikings

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:32 AM
An amusement park on a honeymoon? Sounds like you're marrying a nice woman (either that, or she has no idea... yet!)

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-Rob
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:47 AM

MagnumForce said:


Well we can simply thigns by putting Schmecks, Allens, and Millers all as PTC,


I would hate to go that simple... Schmecks, Allens and Millers while the majority are PTC's ride differently... at least in my opinion.

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*** This post was edited by SLFAKE 9/11/2003 1:49:28 PM ***
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM
Yeah we are talking about going to Las Vegas and then driving to SFMM too.

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Skol Vikings

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM
A Miller is definitely different from a Schmeck, which is entirely different from an Allen. Each designer had his own ideas and their creations reflect that.

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-Rob
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:02 PM
But they are all the same company. I didn't know we were talking about designers but rather companies.

Schmeck, Miller, and Allen were all h heads of PC during their time.

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:07 PM
Right, but when classifying PTC coasters, I do it by designer and just list PTC as the builder. In other words, I consider Phoenix to be a Schmeck and GASM (SFOG) to be an Allen.

Wild One... I don't know what to call that... Schmeck... Miller... something else?

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-Rob
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:32 PM
When I started keeping track of the coasters I have ridden on an Excel spread sheet, I added a column for Designer/Builder. For Wild One, the entry I have is "J.Miller (H.Schmeck) / PTC"

For Companies like GCI and the now defunct CCI, I only included the company name. For PTC, I have included the designer name (where known). Should GCI stick around as long as and be as prolific as PTC, then I suppose the "designer name" would be significant there too. Since PTC's history runs through most of the 20th century, the design philosophies of the company changed over time (and as stated, with each new director). With GCI (and also CCI), the philosophy of design has remained constant over their short history... so to say GCI, you get a pretty good idea of what the ride is like... but to say PTC? All depends on who designed it... and sometimes even when they designed it.

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:50 PM
My question about Wild One was more of a hypothetical one... I know that Miller designed the original ride, but I wonder if Schmeck's changes to the ride were significant enough to make it more of a Schmeck than a Miller?

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-Rob
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Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:54 PM
While the styles are all unique to the different designers, I'd still call the Miller, Allen, and Schmeck designs 'PTC' if I were refering to manufacturer.

Well, maybe not the Schmecks. That's a whole seperate class. ;)

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