Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:04 PM

When I rode Deperado last, the tunnel you drop into (after the first drop) was basically falling apart, didn't look safe... anyone else notice this?

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Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:31 PM

I take it not a lot of people have ridden Desperado...

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Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:22 PM
I did, and it was the most painful (and lame) excuse for a hypercoaster.
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Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:38 PM
Does anyone kno where i can find a picture of the whole layout of the ride?

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Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:31 PM

How's this -

http://www.rcdb.com/full/buffalo-bills-resort-casino/desperado13.jpg

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Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:56 PM
I rode it dozens of times, and I was suprised my sister rode it. My uncle dropped us off at the amusement area of the resort for the whole day. My sister seriously rode the turbo drop over 30 times, I got really neauseous after about 12 rides. The wristband at the casino is a good deal. You get all the rides for the day, tickets to the movie theater in the casino, popcorn and soda, and i think maybe tokens for the large arcade.
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Monday, November 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Anyone want to address my question? LOL.

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Monday, November 18, 2002 12:56 PM

I rode it last November and did not notice the tunnel being in bad shape. I only rode once though.

As far as the ride, I liked it better than the other Arrow hyper I've ridden (Magnum).

That day is also notable as the first time I ever saw a DDR machine. ;)

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Monday, November 18, 2002 1:08 PM

To answer coasteraddict's question: I think the tunnel is constructed to look that way. It's themed to look like an old abandoned mine.

I actually like the ride. A couple not-too-smooth Arrow transitions, but once you learn where they are, it's a decent ride.

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Monday, November 18, 2002 1:11 PM

Ive never rode it, but of all the coasters built before 1995(it was built in 1994, if im not mistaken, and I rode Steel Phantom), Desparado is always the one that intruged me the most. It just looks so awsome...out there in the middle of the desert...it starts in a casino...it is 225 feet tall...it has indoor elements...tunnels, ect, and a slower 2nd half...It just looks so much fun.

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Monday, November 18, 2002 6:14 PM
Yah, it rocks! I rode it about 5 times the day I went, other than the tunnel freaking me out, has to be one of the best coaster settings ever... besides The Beast.

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Monday, November 18, 2002 8:34 PM
It was theming, 'nuff said. Despy qualified as far as I'm concerned as one that "you have to know how to ride". The *dip* into the lift was cool, it had the standard "flat" transitions that people tend to dislike, *lots of lats*. I thought the scenery was great, looking out over the desert....wish I could've gotten a pic of the pool from *up there*. The flume ride at "Buffalo Bob's" was the *hidden gem*....

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 11/19/2002. ***

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Monday, November 18, 2002 9:59 PM
I agree about that flume! But those targets needed a swift kick in the ***! Think I scored -7 or something....a far cry from that surprisingly easy Scooby Doo ride at Paramount's Torontoland. Desperado, while not anything like the other hypers (including Morgans), was certainly something I had to get used to. I only (only?) took 15 laps, and tried my hardest to let it at least fall in my "interesting" category! And that it did, but not before a few rides were spent paying careful attention to the sledgehammer-like transitions. It is an impressive ride to look at, and the view from the road is unique. I like the trains, and the "inddor" loading. It ran very well for me in Oct, and it is obvious that they take care of it. I don't see how those upstops survive though....and the mountain looked fine to me, though I believe I lost conciousness by that part of the ride. Good thing my shuttle to the MGM left when it did!
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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:37 AM

What kind of roughness are people talking about here? Just some rough and tumble transitions (sounds ok to me!) or actual shuffle or washerboard type vibration, too? Does it run like Magnum?

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*** This post was edited by ravenguy98 on 11/19/2002. ***

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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:21 AM
I keep telling everyone, if you ride, ride in the back car ONLY! It is really painful anywhere else. But in the back car it is really smooth, fast, intense, plus 5 times of good airtime. I personally like it better than Xcelerator GASP because it is more intense, longer duh, has a heck of a lot more airtime
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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:08 PM

ravenguy98 said:

What kind of roughness are people talking about here? Just some rough and tumble transitions (sounds ok to me!) or actual shuffle or washerboard type vibration, too? Does it run like Magnum?




It's got more turns and laterals than Magnum, with the typical Arrow transitions. When I was out there in 2000, it didn't have any of that "washerboard" feel to it, but I've heard that over the past year it's starting to get that way.

If you like Magnum, you'll like Desperado. Too many people think everything should ride like Intamin or B&M hypers. Desperado has a few elements that every true connoisseur should enjoy.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:06 PM
Why should't every steel coaster ride like a B&M or Intamin hyper? Put me down in the category of not liking Magnum's bunnyhop finale. The lapbars hurt.
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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:13 PM

Wuss. Its called ejector air. Something I have yet to experience on anyhthing other then Woodies, Maggie, and Phantom.

I have yet to ride a good Intamin Hyper, Millie just doesn't cut it but it sure does appear that the Superman's as well as the European Inatmin's sure have in abundance.

Maggie's "roughness" has nothign to do with Roughness. Its just so much more forceful then any other coaster out there. I have rode the thing for 14 years and the only time I MIGHT find it painful is after riding it 20 times in a row....and loving ever airtime bruise I got.

If it's too much for you pansy's, don't ride. Let the droves of us Magnum Maniacs enjoy what we love. ;)

-Brent who was the last person though maggie's Turnstiles this year.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:41 PM
Desperado gave good rides for me in June with good speed and moderately re-ridable. Obviously not the smoothest steel coaster, but the ejector air and the quick lateral g-filled turn into the block brake was effective and exciting. In past years I noticed "back-compression" at the bottom of the V-shaped bunny hops but this year that negative effect was less noticable. The spiral through the tunnel was also well done. I still enjoy Desperado and rank it in my top ten standard sit-down style steel coasters, below MF and the Morgan Hypers/Junior Hypers, but far above Magnum which was painfully rough in July 2001.

I didn't notice the condition of the first drop tunnel, but enjoyed the "too small to fit a coaster train" illusion.

*** This post was edited by Reno Rail Rider on 11/20/2002. ***

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Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:31 AM

Intamin Fan said:
Why should't every steel coaster ride like a B&M or Intamin hyper?


Don't get me wrong, I love the Intimins and B&Ms. But the Arrow hypers have so much more personality. Sometimes the ultra - smooth rides can get a bit dull for me.

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