Deja Vu/Shockwave (SFGAm)

Sunday, September 1, 2002 10:08 AM

First, did anyone notice this weekend if Deja Vu has been un-vallied yet? (Over two weeks since its latest valley).

Second, I noticed Screamscape is reporting tha Shockwave is down for the season (he also mentions that the trains are gone) and that the design for the new coaster may be being "modified" to fit its new terrain. (Presumably Shockwave's footprint). It is a bit depressing that we'll be flying over a parking lot instead of trees, but oh well. I still think they could fit a new coaster in without tearing anything else out.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 10:11 AM
As of last sunday, a week ago today. The chain was still on Shockwave and two of the three trains were there. Deja Vu was still vallied. the general consensus from ops that I talked to is that they haven't heard a thing about Shockwave being taken out.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 10:49 AM

Deja Vu is still closed? Jeez, why doesn't Six Flags get off their lazy ass and put the train back in the station. Great America has real problems if it takes them over two weeks to fix this.

Perhaps it will be open for Fright Fest, but I suppose this means it wont be open when I visit the park tomorrow. :(

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 11:19 AM
Deja Vu was operational yesterday.

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Vekomember is from Holland, ishn't zaht veerd?

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 11:25 AM

As of yesterday the chain is still in on Shockwave, and Deja Vu was running, but it broke down at least twice. :(

After visiting the park 3 times this year I finally got to ride it.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 12:18 PM
Thanks guys.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 12:47 PM

Heh cool, I suppose I over reacted there, but I had good reason! :) I thought it was still closed and I would have been a tid bit angry if they hadn't "unvalleyed" it after two weeks.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:00 PM

Two weeks is not THAT long considering how it's such a painstaking process to get the train back in the station. I would bet that CP would not do it that much faster if faster at all.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:24 PM

Not only was Deja Vu running today, it was operating at 10:30 when we arrived...no more 12-5, I guess. When I rode it in June, it seemed to be running....faster? I watched it for about 15 minutes today and, honestly, I was surprised each time it made it through the cobra roll.

Got a good view of Shockwave from the Condor (we also parked right in front of it) and didn't see any trains at all. Noticed all the numbered surveyor marks on the ground beneath the structure.

Also noticed that the French Quarter Collectible store across the way from Shockwave's chained queue has been cleared out of all merch and shelving, interiors, etc.. Of course we know that Cajun Cliffhanger is gone, Power Dive has been dismantled and what's up with the East River Crawler? All the arms and cars have been removed as well as the lobster head. My guess was it's being readied for FrightFest, but before Labor Day when the place is closed weekdays? Hmmmm.

Ya know, freeing up all that space within Orleans Place, and all the over the train tracks up to Batman sure would make for a big AND interesting footprint.....

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:45 PM

I saw that too, Steve... (I was there today...) Like pictures? I got them. (See bottom.)

Deja Vu was open all day, but the turnover was horrible, as I usually expect it to be. Ride early, ride late, do not get in the line around noon or you WILL wait 150+ minutes.

Basically, the park was crowded today, and I had to wait more than 45 minutes for Raging Bull (I take 15 min waits for granted), so it wasn't all that great. The Shockwave-crowd must be migrating over or something.

http://www.loopscrew.com/~pictures/crawler.jpg

Also, I think that SFGAm is toying with us just a little bit. I took this right before the batteries in my camera died (they've lasted all summer though... The lithium ones really do work...) This shot is a window of a souvenier store by Whizzer (location means nothing, subject means everything.)

http://www.loopscrew.com/~pictures/teaser.jpg

Hmmmmmmm.... :)

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 5:00 PM
I noticed teh Superman merch in the window by where you buy Fastpass too. Interesting to say the least.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 5:13 PM

Yep, I-Nar, that's my beloved East River Crawler, decapitated and amputated! I was there with my 9 year old, 48" tall niece so we spent the day doing the "family rides" so this was a very disappointing site for us.

Crowds were quite heavy today. We waited 50 (!) minutes for Whizzer but only about 15 for an ejectacular lap on Viper in 1.3. My niece rode the whole way with her little hands held high. Couldn't have been more proud if she were my very own!

If the rumored B&M Flyer is a cloned Superman, well, that would just be unfortunate. Then again, anything that isn't Shockwave will be a welcome sight.

*** This post was edited by IBsteve on 9/1/2002. ***

*** This post was edited by IBsteve on 9/1/2002. ***

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 6:03 PM

I'm now under the impression that we NEED Shockwave, basically for no reason other than taking some of the Raging Bull crowd out of that area. Bull was upwards of 50 minutes, and I rode all of one time.

Also, my friend just noted something about the area by Batman. GAm is removing Crawler (or just moving it to another part of the park), they've removed Cajun Cliffhanger, and they've removed Power Dive. Basically, there is a nice little strip that extends from the middle of Batman all the way back to the train tracks that could be used for, say, a lifthill/station? (Maybe, a turn over the walkway and the main layout on the other side?)

Or, can you say, 'return of Tidal Wave?'

My own, personal pipe dream...

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"Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation." - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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Sunday, September 1, 2002 6:30 PM

No! No! NO! I, too, loved Tidal Wave, but ANOTHER one train, low capacity shuttle (V2, DV) would suck.

As for *needing* Shockwave...I just can't wrapped my Shockwave addled brain around that concept. The half-dozen times I've been to the park before SW closed, it was basically a walk-on so it wasn't doing much to effect wait times on the more popular coasters. BUt you're absolutely right. The lines are toooooo long, especially on weekends but even on weekdays this year.

One more note about the surveyor marks beneath SW...they form a straight line that cuts right through the center of the current footprint, all the way to the grassy knoll along the fence. If the new coaster is going in this area, my guess is it won't extend as far out into the parking lot as SW.

Aside from the missing trains, SW is still intact. No equipment or track anywhere in sight yet.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 6:57 PM
That Superman store really doesn't mean anything SFGADv has had one for the past 5 years. I do think that SFGA will get a Superman themed flyer though.
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Sunday, September 1, 2002 8:58 PM

Does it not seem that they could fit the flyer into the space they've cleared without removing Shockwave, which is, in my opinion, a crucial part of the skyline and a crucial link to Gam/coaster history?

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 9:37 PM
I was at SFGAM on 9/1/02 and the park was very busy!!! DejaVue was open, well at least part of the time. It opended late by about 10 minutes but i was lucky and was on the first ride of the day. And again with management knowing it was going to be a busy daya why did they open RB with only 2 trains!!!!! Just plain stupid and causes lines to be longer than they should(but of course they dont care as fastlane passes were sold out when we walked by around 330pm). And i actually miss Shockwave!! It was always nice to end the day riding the coaster 5/6 times without having to exit the ride. And wonder why they arent trying to remove it if Whizzer was supposed to have been closed and the deconstruction process was supposed to have started?? And a great park ie-Universal/Disney wouldnt have just let a ride sit there for weeks and done nothing like SFGAM does!!! DeJuVue should have been fixed alot sooner and would have been if the customer was the main concern!!
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Sunday, September 1, 2002 9:40 PM
When'll you figure out that nobody cares about your whining anymore? You always complain about the same stuff, but for some reason you keep going back to the park. It's very strange...

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 10:03 PM

I agree Spacecase8310 hes always complaining about something at the park. I think its great that they got Deja Vu fixed in such a short time considering the process it takes to move the train.

Also that Superman Merchandise has been there all year and if my memory is correct I think it was there last year too.

Did anybody get any pictures of the survery marks around Shockwave, im still holding out hope that they will build around the ride instead of taking it down.

Its sad to see East River Crawler taken apart, its been down for weeks. I hope they aren't removing it, or else SFGAm will be lacking flat rides even more than it is now.

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Sunday, September 1, 2002 10:11 PM

hey all

i was at great america today 9/2/02 and i took the liberty to walk around the fence over by the employee drive. there i noticed all 3 trains from shockwave were missing.

i also noticed that the chain is still on the lift. you can easly see it if you look at the bottom of the lift from the north side.

also while i was walking around i noticed survay lines but they have depth marks writen next to them ranging from 28in to apx48in. the other thing i noticed about the bright orange lines is that they jeted out into the parking lot from the north fence at least 75ft.

teaser? while i was waiting for the front row of batman i was watching the north tv set when a ride animation started playing. this multi inversion sit down ride seemed very interesting to me as it included a ferris wheel and a lake that apeared to look very simular to the one under the whizzer. this might be my imagination but could it be for the new ride?

have fun pondering. ondrew

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