Deja Vu's Last Season?

Saturday, March 1, 2003 8:38 PM

A friend of mines thats works at SFGam said that if Deja Vu Vallies as much as it did last year that it would be gone for certain. At first i found that hard to believe but after some extensive thought I realized the potential of that happening. I have 3 reasons.

1. Money Loss

2. Dead Space

3. Bad Fan Reaction

I believe those factors would surely lead to the dimise of a great ride. Please post comments on how you feel.
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Saturday, March 1, 2003 8:41 PM
I feel as though Six Flags isn't going to throw away a multi-million dollar investment.

-Nate

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 8:50 PM
well it seems they are wasting money to maintain it...wouldnt be a good reason?

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 9:20 PM
As much as it vallied last season!? It only valleyed twice and besides those two valleys it operated fine. Out of my 32 visits to the park last year, there were only 2 days when the ride never opened all day. Thats pretty good for a ride that only ran for a few days in 2001.

Its getting better as time goes on, and thats proved by Last Blast when it was running in 30 degree temperatures perfectly. I don't see it going anywhere, anytime soon.

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*** This post was edited by CoasterDude316 3/2/2003 2:25:08 AM ***

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 9:36 PM
hmmm....real creative names we have in here ;)

Anyway, it seems ludicrous that they would remove a new ride. Moving it to another location would not solve the problems. Scrapping is out of the question.

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 10:27 PM
LOL! Nice catch, Antuan. I'd just like to point out that I was the *first* Coasterdude. :)

I don't think there are excessive costs involved in keeping Deja Vu (certainly not moreso than any other new ride). And what would SFGAm gain by removing it? It's popular and it takes up little space.

To put it simply, there are a lot of costs involved in removing the ride and few gains.

-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 3/2/2003 3:29:25 AM ***

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 10:46 PM
The whole notion of removing it after two seasons is absurd. They're actually working pretty decent now.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 12:00 AM
We're just talking about the Great American one right? 'Cause the one down here in SoCal is doing just fine.
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Sunday, March 2, 2003 5:22 AM
The one at SFGAM has greatly improved and doesn't valley as much as it used to. The ride is starting to "break in." Also SFGAM invested so much money in the ride for when it does valley its not a problem to evacuate the people from the train (Cobra Roll and between the loop and Cobra Roll). Also if the computer and the brakes work properly the train will valley between the loop and the second lift which only requires the train to be hooked up to the second lift and will complete the rest of the circuit. Theoretically the train should never valley in the cobra roll or between the loop and the cobra roll. I think the problem is with the computer and the sensors when it valleys anywhere other than between the loop and the second lift.

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Mike
Favorite Wood: Viper at SFGAM,Shivering Timbers
Favorite Steel: Magnum and Raging Bull

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:02 AM
According to an engineer I stuck up a conversation with last year the reason it valleyed so much is because they ran it when it was below 50 degrees. When it is that cold, for some reason, it cannot complete the circuit thats why the ones in Cali and Georgia have not valleyed as much as the one at SFGAm

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I don't care what anyone says, Magnum is better then Millenium Force.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:22 AM
But Deja Vu worked perfectly in 30 degree weather during last blast.

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People scare me.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:24 AM
Yes, that was established, however there were times last year furing Fright Fest and Last Blast that it got pretty cold, and the coaster ran fine.

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:31 AM
Right... First off, All three of the Deja Vus in America are prototype GIBs, therefore, some problems can be expected. From what I've heard, the one in Spain works fine, but it may have problems as well. Second, Six Flags Inc. has spent well over 42 Million Dollars on all three GIBs, and that's a pretty heavy investment. Basically it boils down to this; Yes, Deja Vu valleys, this is why there is a valley floor, and yes, Deja Vu sometimes misses the catch cart, causing a valley. However, this is the off season (even though only a few weeks left), and I expect that Six Flags has been in contact with Vekoma and they've been sorting problems and correcting them where needed.

Don't worry, Deja Vu will still be there this season, and the one after that, etc.

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"Enjoy your record-breaking ride on Millennium Force"

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:49 AM
Did Six Flags ever make the final payment to Vekoma for the GIB? I remember they were holding off payment until they were fixed and working properly. Maybe Vekoma will repossess all of the Deja VUs!

NOTE: I am just joking about the last statement.

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Mike
Favorite Wood: Viper at SFGAM,Shivering Timbers
Favorite Steel: Magnum and Raging Bull

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 6:59 AM
Yes, while we're at it why don't we just take down a few other coasters... X, Xcelerator, Hypersonic, and Volcano are all rides that are popular with park-goers, yet had a trouble filled first season, moreso than the Deja Vu's. You may hear whining and complaining about the slow wait times and such while you're in line, but if you stand by the exit, and talk to those same people later, you'd get nothing but glowing praise about the ride.

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 8:32 AM
To tell you the truth, One time a saw a girl crying after she rode Deja Vu ;)
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Sunday, March 2, 2003 9:19 AM
IMO Deja Vu won't last that long. I don't see them removing it anytime soon, but I would not count on it being around in 15 years or so, unless they find A way to make it more cost efficient or reliable.
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"Grit Your Teeth, Bare The Load, Enjoy your ride, on Thunder Road"
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Sunday, March 2, 2003 9:30 AM
Magnum, you sure that she wasn't crying from joy? ;)

Deva Vu is a great ride, especially when compared to other Vekoma rides, or even other more highly acclaimed coaster creators.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 9:30 AM
Well, Magic Mountain's Deja Vu was closed just recently, and they're removing the train. Looks like that new train rumor had some truth to it.

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

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Sunday, March 2, 2003 9:32 AM
Does anyone know how much Deja Vu costs per day to operate? It wouldn't suprise me if they removed it because their income is mainly being consumed by DV and they aren't getting much back from it.

-Eric



*** This post was edited by 3r1c 3/2/2003 4:20:03 PM ***

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