Deja Vu at SFGAm

It would be too risky, what with the lack of room to get the proper equipment close enough. If the emergency unload platform weren't there it may be more feasible. Plus there would be a great deal more labor hours put into taking the bulk of the train apart and then reassembling it again. Sorry if I offended you, but seeing as I've witnessed this twice now I just can't picture them doing it any other way. It seems the most logical way of going about it.

I doubt it'd take any more man hours, since SFGAdv is somehow able to take Chiller off the track, put it back on, and re-open it the next day when it takes SFGAm at least a week. SFGAdv may even be able to reopen Chiller the same day it valleys!

They take the train off the track at the end of every season, you know. I'm sure platforms under the track really isn't that big of a problem.

-Nate

Oh I know they take the train off at the end of the season.....but....the track is designed to be able to remove the train inbetween the station and the cobra roll ,that's why they have the removable stair case. They remove a small section of track, and roll the cars off on to a waiting maintenance vehicle, where as the section between the loop and cobra roll has the unload platform that is not removable (well, it could be but at great cost).

The process of moving the train the way SFGam has chosen to do it only takes a few hours, granted they did take two days to do this last season. I suspect other issues with the ride prevented it from opening sooner.

I am not too sure I understand this concept completly, but from what I "THINK" some people are saying is that they separate the train and pull them in different directions? That seems very unsafe to me. The whole "no more that one train in the same block at the same time". Even if this was a maintainence thing, I don't think they would risk it. Image that thing colliding, the general public reaction to something like that, empty train or not. Like I said, I'm not sure that is what you are saying....

As far as stalling between the loop and the second tower, yes they do attach a crane, pull the train till the wagon can catch the train, and the train then completes the circuit after it is released. As far as inbetween the loop and the cobra roll, I'm not sure. As far as IN the cobra roll, I am 99.9% sure they would have a way to push the train back into the station. I am thinking however that to dissasmble the train between the loop and cobra roll seems inprobable. The reason I say this is because of the emergency unload platform that is now beneath that area. I cant really see how they can get equipment in there, I just can't visualize it, doesnt mean they can't do it however.

I think DejaVu is an invesment six flags is regretting. Especially three of them. I don't think we will see another one unless its second generation with improvements, and yes, I think the train design is horrible. It may not be that difficult for us to undersand, but the general public is very confused when they enter that station (I.M.O.)

I am not expecting it to be open on saturday, I would suggest that no one here gets their hopes up either. Lets enjoy superman in all if its opening day glory :)

no no.....sorry if there was any confusion. They pull them in the same direction, towards the 2nd tower. the front half of the train is basically pulled up to the top via the normal cable lift that is already in place (once it's been pulled to the other side of the loop) then the back half is brought around the loop into the breaks at the base of the 2nd tower.

Then I don't understand why they would separate the train. I'm sorry, maybe my brain is not functioning correctly. Perhaps you can explain the reason they do this? Like I said, I don't know, but am interested in finding out.......

I would imagine it's easier to manage half a train, in terms of weight, than a whole train. It's probably just a lot less wear on the crains.

Ok the thing is deja vu is technically 4 across occording to a ride op friend of mine. But the only time deja vu's trains at SFGAm is when it valleys between the loop and cobra roll.but that only happened once. Useually a big old crane comes in. But i could be wrong.
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No, Deja Vu velleyed between the loop and the cobra roll *twice* last season. The first time was during opening weekend (late Sunday, I believe). The second was sometime in early to mid August.

-Nate

OMG you people are crazy!

If it valleys between the loop and cobra roll they remove the train and rebuild it in the station. THEY DID THIS BEFORE... did no one see it last season when DV had half a train in the station a week or so after it valleyed? It was being rebuilt! Thats what they do!...and dont be surprised If DV is closed at the beginning of the season either.

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How do they do it SFGAm Viper? Not trying to be smart, i am curious....

As has been stated numerous times, there's two ways of returning the train to the station if it valleys between the loop and the cobra roll. One involves removing the train an reassembling it, the other involves pushing the train through the loop and to lift two. Read the thread for more in-depth information. Regardless of which way people happen to believe SFGAm does it, there are only two ways.

-Nate

I haven't heard of them removing the train form the track whenever it vallies. but i'm now positive that they bring a bob cat in to remove the train when it vallies over the new wooden platform. I also know that they do use a bob cat to place cars on the track (saw it in 2001). But has anyone heard when the park expects it to open.

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I have seen them winch (use a crane and cables) B:TR at SFGAdv. out of a valley, but that was close to the end of the course, so.... (and what this has to do with Deja Vu is completely up to your discretion).

My real question is: How do they get the train off the track between the CR and the loop? The track is fixed in place (it's not a transfer table or anything) and the train is attached by its upstops. Do they just remove the upstops?

Is there any kind of transfer track on Deja Vu?

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*** This post was edited by ApolloAndy 4/29/2003 2:07:14 PM ***

SFGA Viper-

They do not take the train off the track. I work there and I dont remember seeing half the train in the station after it valleyed. There are plenty of other reasons why half the train would be in the station.
*** This post was edited by KrazyKoaster 4/29/2003 2:33:26 PM ***

Seriously, are you joking or what?

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KrazyKoaster is serious and right. I read in someone's post that they put it on the back of a truck and transport it over or something, thats not even close to possible. They would have to hoist the truck up with a crane, put it on the emergency evac platform, take that down then drive the truck over to the station and use the crane to take the train off.

What they do is hoist it through the loop, that save a lot of time and effort. KrazyKoaster knows what hes talkin about. Plus he is an employee, so he knows what hes saying.

I find it hilarious that employees at the park are saying exact opposite things. Sorry, but the "employees know" argument obviously doesn't work in this case.

Booya: there'd be no reason to have to hoist the truck up. All they do is remove the upstops from the cars and, using a crane, put the car back on the track on the other side of the loop. It's what many other parks do with their shuttle coasters.

-Nate

I was at SFOG last Saturday and that Deja Vu was not open. The other bad thing about this coater is it has low very capacty.

I love when people who don't work with the rides assume they know how the staff of the park operate and fix their rides. The next time I see them fixing rides at GA I'll remember that it isn't what I see them doing, it is what you people say happens. I forgot that this isn't gossip.

Booya-

I never said that happened. I never mention how they do it. I just said taking the train apart was wrong. Don't put words in my mouth. As you know I cant say anything.
*** This post was edited by KrazyKoaster 4/29/2003 4:48:42 PM ***