Couple loses lawsuit after losing membership in Disney's Club 33

Jasonland:

I worked in attractions so I kind of know what they look out for.

That could also be transformed into the "Whipping out your ACE card" meme.

I will admit I lost this arguement. As an alcoholic that moderates but enjoys my drinking without causing problems, I am in the minority on the posts on the thread. I hate every LA Times, SF Gate, and New York Post article I see on Disney, as the always make the park or guests look bad for being elitists on the leftist side or being to gay/trans/black on the right side. It is weird to see the left and right pile on Disney from each side.

Also, my brother in law and friends were in security so I know what to look for. Reading an entire sentence will help you enderstand things.

What is an ACE card. Does it get you a discount on an all you can eat buffet at an amusement park?

Only if gravy is involved.

Jasonland:

Also, my brother in law and friends were in security so I know what to look for. Reading an entire sentence will help you enderstand things.

I don't enderstand why you keep applying this supposed experience to a situation of which none of us know the full details. Your past experience has no bearing whatsoever. The extremes to which Disney has reacted in removing the couple from the exclusive club and gambling by taking it to court show that there were unique circumstances in play. Or at least, that's my enderstanding.

How does someone become too gay/trans/black?

"How does someone become too gay/trans/black?"

I was referring to the conservative media constantly blaming Disney's failure on catering to minorities and LGBTQ. New York Post is one of them but not anywhere close to the worst. Youtube has a lot of people that love to blame Disney for liberal concepts instead of Disney's actually investment on developing a good script.

SFGate and LATimes trash Disney too but for being expensive and elitist. I guess you can't win.

Hi BigBoy, I guess these people were rich and I could never afford Club 33. I loved D'land as a child and got to work there. If I spent years on a waiting list, $30,000 entrance fee, and lost it all for being drunk once; I would be a little upset. I guess we can we can leave it there since none of us are probably members and have an entitled rich attitute.

I am happy I got my family into the Lille Belle for free before I drank from 7-11. I guess my $5.50 per hour college job had a couple of benefits.

The couple was interviewed in The Hollywood Reporter.

Jasonland:

What is an ACE card

CoasterBuzz Memes

I tried to read the interview with an unbiased opinion and I'm still really struggling to feel any empathy for these people. Complaining that the club went downhill the last of their 5 years as members, but then spending hundreds of thousands to try and get reinstated? Then this, after no longer having exclusive access and having to visit like the peons and riff raff...

We’ve gone three times. We paid for the Lightning Pass. They didn’t tell us how to use it. So we went on one ride and then everything was sold out for the day. I’m like, “Are you kidding me?” And while we were in line, Disneyland sold out, so we couldn’t go to both parks. It wasn’t any fun.

I mean, on one hand, given the typical crowds, Disney hasn't sounded all that fun to me either, but on the other hand, please allow me to reiterate...

I know what an ACE card is. I used to hang out in Alt Rec Rollercoaster on the old internet boards and the joke was that there needed to be an all you can eat buffet with potatoes and gravy for it to be legit or people would complain. I was just joking.

And Vater, I agree that the LA Times article makes them look pretty bad. I can't even remember the first article I read and linked to as Jeff erased it, but it left out anything about previous problems and f-bombs so I got a different impression. Journalism can be biased sometimes depending on who they want you to hate. My aunt and uncle live in Scottsdale so I know Arizona people can be as ornery as Yosemite Sam, so perhaps the couple deserved it. I don't hang with the rich crowds and don't have no Club 33 or ACE cards to whip out. My status is Knott's, SFMM and Castle Park passes. I even get meals and soft drinks with my pass at Knotts as a high roller!

I find your constant assault on journalism to be ridiculous. I'm not sure that you're able to differentiate between journalism and opinion.

"I find your constant assault on journalism to be ridiculous. I'm not sure that you're able to differentiate between journalism and opinion."

I threw LA Times, New York Post and Sf Gate under the bus as far as their Disney coverage. If you can find a pro Disney article from one of the three in the past couple of years, I apologize. That doesn't mean that the rest of their newsrooms are biased or well researched. I have seen many decent articles from LA Times on other subjects.

ChaChingQueen, Irish Star, CarBuzz, Gin Raiders, and The Yodel are some of the other free stuff MSN thinks I should read and absorb. If we are not willing to pay for news, we will get:

1: Political, advertising, or environmental propaganda disguised as news with back alley people or organizations to fund it, or

2. Actual news with a desperate attempts to keep funding through traditional failing channels.

Number 1 is winning, as younger generations don't place the same value in paying for news.

Journalism does not seek to be pro or anti anything. It seeks truth and fact.

Jeff:

I'm not sure that you're able to differentiate between journalism and opinion.

This applies to at least half the country these days. It's why Trump loves the uneducated. (Can opened. Worms everywhere.)

"This applies to at least half the country these days. It's why Trump loves the uneducated. (Can opened. Worms everywhere.)"

Isn't the bigger problem that many people so believed that journalism was fake for whatever reason that thay accepted: podcasts, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, 4chan, that pillow guy, Truth Social and others for their news and facts without any vetting as long as it agreed with their opinions? Lame stream media was out the window for ameteurs with agendas to sell. I have some used NFTs anyone.

The other issue is that billionaires have seen Citizen Kane and own whatever media that is available for purchase. Elon Musk with Twitter/X and the Ellison family with Paramount/CBS News, Patrick Soon-Shiong of LA TImes are some of the latest acquisitions. It seams the majority of the news is owned or the corporation stock is constrolled by one person or family and they tend to have a baackground agenda. For example, Wall Street Journal may have perfect reporting across the board but never a pro union or pro minimum wage article if the Murdoch family doesn't like them. This is just a small sample of the articles on LA Times in a couple of months:

I don't subscribe so I don't read the articles but they make Disney look pretty poorly in the descriptions. There are plenty of facts which is good but also I don't need to be told how to feel about facts.

Jasonland:

Isn't the bigger problem that many people so believed that journalism was fake for whatever reason... without any vetting as long as it agreed with their opinions?

Isn't that exactly what you did above when complaining about Disney coverage?

You can read an article but not agree with the point of vue or conclusions of the author. That's why there are internet places or comments sections to discuss them. I wasn't presenting new news or facts. I simply didn't agree with the conclusion to ban them but I was in the minority and posted in the wrong forum in the first place so my bad.

Jasonland:

point of vue