Coasters that Revolutionized the Industry

Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:24 PM
I did think about posting about M:TR Moosh but I didn't want you to get a big head ;)

-Jim (whistling innocently)

Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:26 PM
LOL Jim. BTW, excellent Essential Listening list. The new AIR is awesome. You should check out the new CD [and the 2001 debut] by Zero 7 -- if you haven't already. I'll have to check out Adult and Client....
Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:29 PM
Sorry we all dropped the balls on that one, Moosh. We should have made a reference before now! :)
Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:30 PM
Thanks mate! Funnily enough, I was listening to 'Simple Things' earlier this evening! Very laid back:)

The new Air album is great though 'Moon Safari' still does it for me everytime. I won't mention '10,000hz Legend...'

Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:25 PM
M:TR may have "revolutionized" the industry, but I believe N:TOP has more *significant figures*. Video footage is floating around somewhere for proof... ;)


Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:30 PM
True, but wasn't M:TR the first to feature inline seating? Or was that Matterhorn..?


Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:47 PM
What the heck is M:TR I've been reading this site for like a year now and I still haven't figured it out. Is it Moosh: The Ride? or what?....sorry but im confused.

What is the answer to the BTMR question though? Boy I am really confused...o and Happy Easter everyone!

Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:49 PM
About M:TR, ignorance is bliss, and consider yourself lucky!

BTMM was the first coaster to use LIMs.

Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:08 PM
I'm just as confused Kyle, but I like to play along... I think the "colon" is an important part of that acronym though. ;)


Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:53 PM
Kyle - it's just a bad, old joke. Yes, it stands for Moosh: The Ride. That's all you need to know.

And Danny....ROFL, and no, absolutely not.

Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:10 PM
Next thing Kyle will be asking, "what's up with the pancake references?" :) Again, ignorance is bliss!
Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:07 PM
What happened to coasterbuzz?
Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:11 PM
Let's not start THAT again!
Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:20 PM
ok im in over my head...

Speaking of Pancakes, Im watching the food channel and they're showing how they make the Mickey Mouse pancakes.

I'll pass on the pancake jokes, some really sick images might come into mind. I'll save it for a time when i'm not eating.

Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:46 PM
BTMR has LIMs, Florida or California or both? I remember something about the California one trying to tear of a limb that was offered to it.
Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:07 PM
The key word here is "revolutionize." Not only do we not agree on what that means, but it probably is not necessary or even useful in a research paper. You need to be tracing the evolution step by step, not huge leap by huge leap.

Looking at little steps...

l. Kennywood introduced the idea of the terrain coaster (although no one at KW ever used that term) with its early woodies.

2. KW's Racers were the first twinc coasters to run on a single track (i.e., the train leaves on the right track and returns on the left, then returns next time on its original right. It's not two parallel tracks, but one double long single track coming into the station halfway through).

3. Waldameer's Ravine Flyer was the first coaster to cross a major state highway.

4. KW introduced the drop out of the station with the chain lift partway through the ride with its Jackrabbit and Pippin.

5. Carowinds Hurler and Kentucky Kingdom's Thunder Run were the first (they're mirror clones) woodies to have the entire layout behind the lift hill and first drop.

6. KW's Jackrabbit was the first double dip coaster, both to demonstrate the effectiveness of and to take advantage of the upstops.

Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:38 PM
I have a postcard from West View Park showing a terrain coaster predating the Kenny-woodies that would refute Item #1. And I'm pretty sure that, with a little research, I could debunk the rest of your points as well.

Again, firsts do not equal revolutionary.

Monday, April 12, 2004 8:55 AM
Some of the rides I would consider revolutionary. You can do your own research on them and find out why for yourself and in turn decide for yourself if they are revolutionary.

Leap The Dips - currently oldest operating rollercoaster known, and possibly last operating side friction coaster. In and of itself this ride was not revolutionary but might be a great example of a ride type that was revolutionary when it was introduced.

Matterhorn at Disneyland

Revolution at Magic Mountain

Corkscrew (no longer at this park) at Knott's Berry Farm

Z Force at SFGAm (now Flashback at SFMM)

Batman the Ride at SFGAm

Stealth at PGA (now Borg Assimilator at PCW)

Outer Limits (PKI and PKD)

Volcano at PKD

Hypersonic XLC

Monday, April 12, 2004 10:17 AM
Z force? Why?

Stealth? It was the third flying coaster.

Volcano? Why?

Monday, April 12, 2004 10:34 AM
Like I said in my previous post, I will leave it to everyone else to research them and decide for themselves if they really are revolutionary and why.

Z Force was previously stated at the first to have been designed using spline curves.

Stealth was the first successful "looping" flying coaster and it allowed for the current wave of flying coasters in existence. Sure it may not have been a true first but it did in some ways revolutionize the technology.

Volcano - it was the first inverted LIM launched coaster. For some reason I thought that there was more to the story than I can find now that would support why I thought it was revolutionary.


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