Coaster with highest theoretical capacity - what is it?

Monday, October 3, 2005 2:57 PM
Anyone know what coaster has the highest theoretical capacity? I'm guessing Nitro or Millie, due to the 3 trains of 36 passengers each. Anyone know for sure?
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Monday, October 3, 2005 4:07 PM
I wouldn't even consider MF, even though it has three trains, without flush loading it is essentially running in two-train mode. Plus you have to deal with seatbelts which will slow down the loading process. If you are looking only at single tracked coasters I would have to say Apollo's Chariot because it is the shortest (in length and duration) of the B&M three train coasters I can think of, and B&M hyper trains load faster than any other type of train.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 5:53 PM
It's likely something like California Screamin' or Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. They each can have four to five trains operating on the circuit at a time, giving them THRCs in the neighborhood of 2250 - 2500 pph.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 5:55 PM
Or if you want to count something with 2 tracks, Deuling Dragons, and and good ol' Gemini would be way up there, as well.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 5:56 PM
Gemini is a people-eater if there ever was one.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 5:57 PM
Obvious it'd be a racer or dueler, but assuming it's a single track coaster, I'm leaning towards something like California Screamin'.

According to RCDB a train can be sent every 36 seconds. That would put it at 2400pph.

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Monday, October 3, 2005 6:43 PM
For years it was Gemini which can easily do 3,600 PPH with all six trains. Dueling Dragons should be equal to or greater than that with six trains.

Unfortunately, neither coaster runs six trains anymore, and Gemini operations have been atrocious for the past couple of years so that the ride that used to routinely do at least 3,400 PPH and NEVER missed an interval with six trains, now almost never makes interval with four.

If you ride Gemini, be sure to brace yourself for the sudden stop at the end of the ride because they can't get the station clear on time. I wonder how many teeth they've knocked out this season.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Monday, October 3, 2005 7:03 PM
Forget about Apollo's Chariot being the highest capacity. Almost every time I visit and ride it the operators let all three trains stack in the station for some reason or another. Then when they have everyone straped in they reopen the clam shells and have them rechecked by the slowest ride attendants in the history of roller coasters. I just shake my head. It's a rarity that they have more than one train on the circuit. Oh and it's even slower on Alpengeist! I estimate 3 sometimes 4 minutes between dispatches. On the other hand: Hypersonic XLC and Italian Job Stunt Track aren't designed to have high capacity, but the attendants load, check, and launch trains like their lives depended on it. They do an impressive job !!! Airromeo4Ever :-).
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Monday, October 3, 2005 7:16 PM
I believe Gemini might hold this record but Im not possitive. I know running six trains with four always on the circut and two in the station It probably does close to 3000+ a hour.

Smartest move CP ever made! *** Edited 10/3/2005 11:18:39 PM UTC by Charles Nungester***

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Monday, October 3, 2005 8:03 PM
I know USF Revenge of the Mummy rips through the line (not sure if the USH one is different...). Maybe not quite as good as Cali Screamin' though. Obviously rides with 2 tracks can have higher capacity.

*** Edited 10/4/2005 12:04:10 AM UTC by Cameraman***

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Monday, October 3, 2005 8:12 PM
Don't forget Adventure Express at PKI! That thing is a people eater.... followed by Vortex.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 8:16 PM
AE and Vortex average less than 1000 an hour...
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Monday, October 3, 2005 8:17 PM
Doesn't CP have part of the Town Hall Museum dedicated to Guinness recognizing Gemini as the coaster with the greatest capacity?
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Monday, October 3, 2005 9:01 PM

Cameraman said:
I know USF Revenge of the Mummy rips through the line (not sure if the USH one is different...). Maybe not quite as good as Cali Screamin' though. Obviously rides with 2 tracks can have higher capacity.

*** Edited 10/4/2005 12:04:10 AM UTC by Cameraman***


The flame resets every 25 seconds

so 144 per hour times 16 in a car

is 2304 per hour

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Monday, October 3, 2005 9:24 PM
You guys are forgetting some of the traveling Schwarzkopf coasters that run 5 trains. (Olympia Looping 3000rph...etc)

And Eurostar which has a theoretical capacity of 2880. (and probably hits it too)

http://www.coastersandmore.de/rides/eurostar/eurostar_eng.shtml *** Edited 10/4/2005 1:25:12 AM UTC by MrX***

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Monday, October 3, 2005 9:24 PM

Teenage Ninja said:
AE and Vortex average less than 1000 an hour...

Vortex less than 1000 an hour? During what time of the season?

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Monday, October 3, 2005 10:17 PM
Incredible Hulk at IOA. 1920/hr according to RCDB.

California Screamin is around 2400/hr if it launches at the advertised capacity.

Flight of Fear is listed at 2000/hr. So that would probably cover all of the spagetti bowls.

Gemini at 3300/hr total or 1650/hr a side.

Rockin' Rollercoaster is 1800/hr.

For a single circuit it will have to be a launched coaster.

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Monday, October 3, 2005 10:26 PM
Unlike Flight of Fear, most of the Premier spaghetti bowl coasters do not have a midcourse brake run.
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Monday, October 3, 2005 10:36 PM
I really feel that Raptor has the highest capacity, not just because it has 3 trains but because of the workers.

When I was there they had 4 people on EACH side. Meaning they had EIGHT people checking restraints. The line for Raptor can get long because it's popular but it NEVER stops moving. I'd love to get a video of that crew in action because it is really something to see. You sit down, wait about 15 seconds at most and "All clear your outta here!"

They run 3 trains on the circuit with the MCBR off and the trains only stack for about 5-10 seconds, which most coasters stack for minutes even with 2 train operation.

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Tuesday, October 4, 2005 12:01 AM
It doesn't matter how fast your crew is when you can only dispatch one train each minute. Raptor's maximum capacity is 1800pph.

That said, there's a lot of talk here about how fast crews are. That's irrelevant information. The thread is about maximum theoretical capacity. That is, what is the maximum possible capacity of the ride (assuming crews can dispatch as soon as possible)?


Bartman2 said:
For a single circuit it will have to be a launched coaster.

Not true. Some launched coasters have high capacity, but not all of them. Similarly, there are some coasters with chain lifts that get equally good capacity. Big Thunder Mountain, for instance, gets 2400pph (which is equal to or greater than all of the launched coasters you mentioned).

-Nate

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