CNN's Crossfire to debate amusement ride safety

Posted Wednesday, July 3, 2002 12:03 PM | Contributed by bigboy

The participants on CNN's Crossfire will debate amusement ride safety and government regulation of the industry tonight at 7:00 p.m. EDT. Check your cable or satellite directory for channel number.

Wednesday, July 3, 2002 1:14 PM
The guests for the show according to CNN's website are:

Michael Newdow, Pledge plaintiff
Bill Powers, International Association of Amusement Parks
Ann Brown, Former chairman of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Steve Dasbach, Libertarian Party

Should be interesting...

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 1:39 PM
Shouldn't Ed Markey be there.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 2:43 PM
I wonder why he isn't...
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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 3:53 PM
Well that was pretty crappy... There wasn't enough time to really get into it and for Powers to defend his points to the batty lady.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 3:56 PM

That was some of the worst 7 min I have watched....

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 3:56 PM

I agree Brandon. That was waaaaaaaay to short to accomplish anything. If they want to debate over this, they need to give them at least a half hour to get their points across and disagreements.

The older gentlemam hosting the show seemed to think it was ridiculous while the younger gentleman sort of like the idea of regulation but didnt quite know for sure.

It was cool that they didnt have their minds made up before the segment.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:00 PM
At least no one was saying that they're death machines that need to be built smaller because they're killing thousands of people.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:03 PM

And airplanes are less dangerous than roller coasters? Well at least if you stall on a rollercoasters you gently roll to a stop and sit there... Stall on and airplane and, well, bye bye.

Also, the guy on the left who worked at SFAW apparently doesn't understand that experienced mechanics inspect the ride, and not the 16-year-old ride operators.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:03 PM

That's scary knowing that that dumb-ass woman was once chairman of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. Also, I think Powers did a great job with the amount of time there was.

Also, Michael Newdow said he didn't know what he was doing when he was operating the Texas Cyclone. That makes him look bad. He could have and should have asked to make sure what he was supposed to do and if he was doing it right.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:16 PM
I'd like to see a coaster debate on The O'reilly Factor.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:22 PM

That's scary knowing that that dumb-ass woman was once chairman of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. Also, I think Powers did a great job with the amount of time there was.

Also, Michael Newdow said he didn't know what he was doing when he was operating the Texas Cyclone. That makes him look bad. He could have and should have asked to make sure what he was supposed to do and if he was doing it right.

She was annoying.. That was bad at the end she said "That's why rides in New Jersey are safe" lol.. like.. uh hum.. sure....

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 4:57 PM

Agreed. I thought Markey was going to show up... anyways...

I personaly hate how individuals focus so much time into such a stupid issue. With all the terrorism, drugs, and other problems, these people worry about rollercoasters? Another thing that angers me is how they factor in the whole carnival accidents into this. Those have a lot more accidents than theme parks and although they're different things, they combine the injury rate.

I was expecting a lot more out of this one... Oh well...

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 5:57 PM
Bill Powers did a nice job I think. I like the statement that he made about injuries going up 33% at carnivals after the feds stepped in. It also helped Bill that he was polite and let Ann say her thing even though Ann couldn't shut her trap while Bill was trying to state his case. Bill was well prepared with the facts and did a good job with the few minutes they gave him.

I aslo like how Connie Chung said that the media blew the Martha Stewart thing way out of proportion earlier in the show. Such hypocrites.
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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 5:58 PM

I find it kind of odd when the one guy referred to the Astroland Cyclone as the Texas Cyclone,boy did he get his rides mixed up.

As for federal regulation I sure hope it doesn't happen because if you look at the CPSC's track record at keeping tabs on the travelling carnivals and all the accidents they are having on average then one can only imagine how unsafe the permanent parks will soon become under the CPSC's control.

The individual states have been doing just fine for years and there's no real reason to change now,after all if it isn't broke don't fix it right?

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 6:30 PM

'And airplanes are less dangerous than roller coasters?'

Man, I'm glad I didn't see that one...

How exactly could rollercoasters be less dangerous than airplanes when people DIE by the HUNDREDS each year on planes worldwide while the worldwide yearly average for deaths on coasters is well below 10.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 7:25 PM

The death rate on coasters is well below FIVE per year, especially if you include only coasters from well known parks, and throw everything out as far as traveling carnivals goes.

Hell, you couldn't get me to ride anything that's not permanent, no matter how tame it looks. Anything maintained by a traveling fair just has a terrible track record, so to speak. I don't trust it. Maybe I should, but I don't.

If we can distinguish between the parks that are there year round and take pride in their safety records, and those that are set up in a matter of days, I think we'd have a stronger argument. As long as the opposition keeps bringing up incidents such as the Texas 'Himalaya' death, they seem stronger, though it is sort of irrelevant to our case.

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 7:40 PM
Where shall I start?
Well, Automobile accidents, courtesy of drunks, cell-phone chats, eating meals, no licence, poor vision,
road-rage, police chases, sexual distractions, and about a million other reason our road-side fatalities are so high. And take note that I didn't even mention Greyhound buses, Trains, are the two drunk Airline Pilots from America West Air-lines. So, they have nothing better to do than discuss a few loose screws and bolts on Amusement Park rides. I love roller-coasters, and my heart is at Cedar Point. And if its my time to go, then I shall embrace my forthcoming exit. After all,
Cedar Point is the Paradise of all Amusement Parks. *** This post was edited by Virgil Abbage on 7/3/2002. ***
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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 7:43 PM
I was really upset by the trains, buses, and planes comment. There was just a bus crash last week with kids down in TX, I don't know how many died there. In southwestern pa we had 4 teenagers die when trying to beat a train and I know this may be a touchy subject but this country did have 4 planes crash last september.
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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 7:58 PM
i don't see what problem these people have when half of the patrons in the park are constantly smoking a cigarette...
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