Chiller Removal (SFGAdv)

Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:55 PM
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, too, as I've ridden both sides with and without OSTRs--at least I think so--not 100% sure of riding Robin with just lapbars. But either way, it's kinda sad to see this go, as the Chiller and Freeze are 4 of the best shuttle coasters ever created IMO. I never did ride it neutered, either, but it just wouldn't be the same. How many coasters do you know of that allowed you to do a barrel roll with just a lap bar?

Rob, interesting that you should mention the increased capacity. Premier Rides designed the dueling coasters model to be able to have the same type of duel-loading capability that the Freeze coasters have. Six Flags opted to not take this option, as they thought that having 2 coasters would be enough for increasing capacity. Too bad that this just wasn't enough for a park SFGAdv's size.

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:58 PM
^^ Also, I spoke with a friend of mine who got to ride it in 1998, and she talked like they would fire the Batman side first, and then the Robin side. So, it sounds like they would "almost" fire them at the same time, but not quite. I don't know if this had to do with power, or just for timing's sake--Robin would traverse its course faster than Batman because of the lower height of the cobra roll vs. the extra 35 or so vertical height of the tophat.

*** Edited 9/25/2007 7:00:36 PM UTC by rablat5***

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:05 PM
I heard something about there not being enough power to fire both trains at once but figured it was some kind of myth. Maybe there was some truth in that. That's a good point about the dual loading stations on the Mr. Freeze rides, which essentially gives them the same theoretical capacity as the two Chiller rides. Did Six Flags save money by avoiding the dual loading platforms, or did they spend more than they had to by building two separate rides? ;)
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:20 PM
I remember during it's first season it was only open for a month then closed for the remainder of the season. I recall someone telling me that the park did not have the power to run both sides simultaneously and if they did the park was told the electricity would go out in the rest of the park.
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:22 PM
All of those Premier launched shuttles were built for the 1997 season but I don't remember them running until 1998.
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:50 PM
Yea, neither of the Freeze coasters ran for 1997, and only Robin ran for 2 days the whole season.
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:03 PM
It was confirmed that it has been sold and will reopen but not in the US. It was also confirmed that the new Dark Knight coaster will be built in its place.
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:25 PM
It has also been confirmed the TDK is a regular wild mouse. There's no spinning, tilting, flying, nothing, it's just a wild mouse. *** Edited 10/10/2007 8:25:50 PM UTC by OP AWESOME***
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:56 PM
Since it looks like this thread is comming back, lemme say this.


Impulse-ive said:
It looks like it's being dismantled, not destroyed. Not that they haven't done that in the past to rides that never were reassembled (Shockwave) but maybe they are looking to either sell it or try it in a warmer climate or something (wasn't SFGAm Deja Vu's issue mostly to do with cooler temps in Chicago?)

Actually Deja Vu can't park correctly in the station. That has been the problem with most of the Deja Vu's


Rob Ascough said:
I heard something about there not being enough power to fire both trains at once but figured it was some kind of myth. Maybe there was some truth in that. That's a good point about the dual loading stations on the Mr. Freeze rides, which essentially gives them the same theoretical capacity as the two Chiller rides. Did Six Flags save money by avoiding the dual loading platforms, or did they spend more than they had to by building two separate rides? ;)

And that myth was true Chiller was improperly wired up so it ended up that it took to much power to launch 2 trains at once. So it blew a few parts because of that and parts were borrowed from Mr. Freeze (as it was being built) to fix some of chiller's problems.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:48 PM
I'm sure there is truth to that rumor but I know for a fact that it did launch at exactly the same time before when it first opened. There used to be a video on alex's place that showed it but sadly he has shut down his site. I'm sure there's a video of it somewhere though.
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:08 AM
Sheikrafanatic I thought that they took a part off of chiller to fix a mr freeze ride and never replaced that part on chiller (generator i was told or something like that). Also if what i say is true then it makes sense as to why the lims always blew .

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:11 AM
Would it be possible to convert the ride to a perhaps less problemsome air launch or old school fly wheel? Keep the LIMs on the spikes I guess, or put in chains like the boomerangs.

And what about the old rolls? Where they saved? Maybe a nice Intamin or Anton train like the ones on Grona Lunds Jetstream would work better... single seaters like the mellenium flyers.

A little far - fetched, but would be nice to see this ride in its former glory - well short term glory anyway. Sans the shoulderbars of course.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:48 AM

Sheikrafanatic said:


And that myth was true Chiller was improperly wired up so it ended up that it took to much power to launch 2 trains at once. So it blew a few parts because of that and parts were borrowed from Mr. Freeze (as it was being built) to fix some of chiller's problems.


That being the case (as I'll assume right now), why didn't the park fix that problem?

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:37 AM
Where has it been confirmed that Chiller was sold and will be reopening?
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:00 PM

DantheCoasterman said:
Where has it been confirmed that Chiller was sold and will be reopening?

I attended a Q&A with management on Monday the 8th and it was an answer to a question that was asked about the Chiller.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:45 PM
Isn't the ride already being dismantled? I figured that was proof.
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:26 PM
^Shockwave was dismantled, and with care even. Wasn't ever sold, and never ran again. It appears that UltraTwister and B:TE will likely surrender to the same fate, and we're still not seeing AW's old SLC re-erected.

Dismantling in this context means it will *in ALL probability* never run at GAdv again. Sold? Rebuilt? Where? Those issues are still up in the air....

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:39 PM
I heard that the heart lines were scrapped. So I doubt if it is erected again it will include them.
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:17 PM

Rob Ascough said:

Sheikrafanatic said:


And that myth was true Chiller was improperly wired up so it ended up that it took to much power to launch 2 trains at once. So it blew a few parts because of that and parts were borrowed from Mr. Freeze (as it was being built) to fix some of chiller's problems.


That being the case (as I'll assume right now), why didn't the park fix that problem?


They figure why fix it if you are just going to put in a new roller coaster in place of it. You can't advertise a roller coaster that never works is new, and that it will attract people to the park.

I think that SF should be reimbursed for that ride, and get a new Premier ride like Mr. Freeze, or Joker's Jinx to give to another park. I think Premier is an awesome company. I really like Joker's Jinx, Mr. Freeze, and Runaway Mountain.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:28 PM
I've been on both sides of the ride many times its opening season. One of my favorite memories is pulling away from the earth, going backwards through the Top Hat. One of the cool thrills I got riding Batman backwards through its Top Hat during dueling was to check out Robin's underbody just twist over through the cobra roll below. Very cool view. I've been on the Batman side with both the OTSR and lapbars on. I'm just disappointed I didn't get on Batman after it got repainted and joined Kingda Ka to give SFGADV the distinguished title of being the only park in the world with both types of Top Hats. You were incredibly lucky if you were on Kingda Ka and the Batman side on the same day. The lapbars enhanced the backward travel through the rolls 10 fold. It was one of the coolest feelings I ever had on a coaster. Robin was always intense, just not my favorite of the two. I've been on it through the OTSR and lapbar phases and while it went through its new hump. Rest in Peace, my friend and namesake. *** Edited 10/12/2007 1:29:33 AM UTC by CHILLERLC1*** *** Edited 10/12/2007 1:30:36 AM UTC by CHILLERLC1***
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