Chaos rides being removed from Six Flags

Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:46 AM
I've been seeing quite a bit of hype about Six Flags removing several of their Chaos rides. Anyone know why? I know their have been a couple of accidents on them lately but none at Six Flags parks I know about. Krypton Comet at SFA used to be fairly reliable, at least up till this year.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:10 PM
They are being pro-active? I like this.

I would rather see a company take some initiative and pull something BEFORE the accident happens.

// and the Chaos at Cedar Point rolls on ...

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:18 PM
As long as it's rolling on and not rolling away! ;)
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:10 PM
The difference is that Cedar Point stripped off the tubs and fixed the restraint problem the day the maintenance bulletin was issued by Chance-Morgan. That's not what I'd call blowing off the problem.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:25 PM
I am with you fanatic. Why take the chance. I can see re engineering on million dollar rides that have flaws, but if it is a mobile carnival ride, I say pack it up, ship it out. It's not worth the risk IMO. They are a fun ride but I am personally avoiding them for now on.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:00 PM
I'll have to say that I've seen roughly 6-8 different Chaos machines this year....only one that I recall seeing with passengers, CP's. Who knows, maybe IB's will be running as well...

Everything that's wrong with Chaos is certainly fixable, but then there comes the issue of liability...:( Shame, cause I really do love the the ride...

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:44 PM
IB's was down for a short while after the last accident, but was running on my last visit 2 weeks ago.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:46 PM
Hmmm, they are going to be as rare as the Zipper, if they even last. :-(

I love Chaos, but all these accidents aren't making them look too good.

-Tina

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:49 PM
I think that's what they're doing with KC.

As I was walking up the midway from superman last night I noticed the ride was raised to expose the pit & I could swear toward the back of the ride I saw one of the cars sitting on the ground.

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:36 PM
The Chaos was missing from Celebration City two weeks ago on our vacation. Must have sent it back to be worked on.

P.S. Wildcat was great, Thunderbolt was a p.o.s.

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:46 PM

Markieb said:
I am with you fanatic. Why take the chance. I can see re engineering on million dollar rides that have flaws, but if it is a mobile carnival ride, I say pack it up, ship it out. It's not worth the risk IMO. They are a fun ride but I am personally avoiding them for now on.

Yeah, but at least in the case of the one at SFA it's not a carnival ride.

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:48 PM
SFKK Chaos is down for the year.. The rumor is they are taking it out as well as Top E... *** Edited 8/14/2005 10:49:39 PM UTC by NABOY***
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:34 PM
I have mixed feelings. It was/is a fun ride and was/is the closest thing to a Zipper that you'd find in an amusement park. There aren't many rides as a rider that you can manipulate, but Chaos was/is one of them. Working in conjunction with another rider, you could influence some of the seat spinning. From an operations standpoint, it was/is an absolute nightmare. Chaos is very sensitive to load unbalances, and all it takes is two people who've had one too many funnel cakes and the ride comes to a stop in midair or elsewhere.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:49 PM
More than likely, SF's issue is with the time you have to invest with a Chaos. If I recall correctly, they need bolts tightened within very specific tensions and frequent inspections.

They're a 'love it or leave it' machine. More like 'love it or ELSE.' SF chooses to leave 'em.

-'Playa

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:23 PM
Are the Larsen Flyer available in a small enough footprint to replace the Chaos? I don't know about the other parks but, SFA's area is a circular area similar to what the Flyers would need.
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Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:04 PM

CoastaPlaya said:
More than likely, SF's issue is with the time you have to invest with a Chaos. If I recall correctly, they need bolts tightened within very specific tensions and frequent inspections.

They're a 'love it or leave it' machine. More like 'love it or ELSE.' SF chooses to leave 'em.

-'Playa


SFA's Chaos was very reliable last year, it was open all my visits last year (10+) and each time the ride was *perfect*.

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:48 PM
Yeah but that was last year & this is now....so far I've only gotten one ride on it all season & that was back on opening day.
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Monday, August 15, 2005 8:43 AM
Well,it looks like we can add the one at Great Adventure to the list now.
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Monday, August 15, 2005 8:48 AM
Colin: The Chaos' touchiness I know about. Whether or not all the SF parks are abandoning them, I don't. But if they are, that would be the most likely reason.

-'Playa

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Monday, August 15, 2005 10:19 AM

CoastaPlaya said:
More than likely, SF's issue is with the time you have to invest with a Chaos. If I recall correctly, they need bolts tightened within very specific tensions and frequent inspections.

It's not that difficult to set a torque wrench to 80 ft-lbs and test it on the main hub bolts once a week. I think it's necessary to prop the center up to get to them, but that isn't difficult either. And it's not that uncommon, either; there are many rides that require frequent torque checks.

But Chance made it easy with the Chaos. They offered a retrofit kit to put Rotabolts into the critical locations. Rotabolts are bolts that have a cap on top that can spin if the bolt isn't torqued properly. Install a set of those, and it is possible to verify the torque on a whole bunch of bolts in just a few seconds, without using a torque wrench.

No, I don't think the required inspections are the real problem with the Chaos. I think the fact that the Chaos keeps finding more new and unusual ways to fail is the more difficult problem. After all, they're on...what...the fourth redesign for the passenger restraint system? And they still have problems?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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