Cedar Point's Maverick will not open with park

I was actually surprised to see them go with Intamin again for Maverick after TTD. This is too bad, hopefully they can get it up running by the planned date. I would imagine outside of school groups, people would postpone their yearly trips until it is open.

It's not Cedar Point's fault the ride is wrong. But it is their fault for hiring a company that has screwed them with faulty rides in the past.

"They" didn't overlook anything, Intamin did. I've never said that Cedar Point doesn't make mistakes. Ask some of the people there how popular I was circa 2004 when I was criticizing the ongoing Dragster fiasco.

Just like Top Thrill Dragster it has issues for delaying its opening, but The Maverick has more stuff to deal with than the Top Thrill Dragster did,but the same ride.

Even The Millenium Force had problems its wierd how CP introduced Maverick to the coaster island. It's Crazy having the same thing happen three times in a row. It seems Intamin is getting careless!!!

If you get my point I agree with Jeff about the delay. well they don't have any room to build any more roller coasters, unless they get rid of another attraction or ride.

*** This post was edited by Twistercoasterman 5/8/2007 3:02:57 PM ***

Cedar Point made the mistake going with intamin for this ride after the past 2 rides were huge problems. They should have taken a breather. I wonder once the track is replaced how many other issues they'll have...

There is a lot to be said about small/mid-sized woodies...would have fit the theme too! ;)

"improving the guest experience"

Getting fed sugar-coated boiler-plate BS like that is more offensive to me than a late-opening ride.

I'm not a guest, I'm a customer and simply telling me that problems with the ride were discovered that put too much stress on the trains is enough.

The point (no pun intended) I'm making is it's possible there have been some distractions with CF....and who's to say with the install of Maverick something didn't get overlooked...

Problems with Dragster's operation, fine, but now a ride install? It's just a little dicey considering CF's standards.

If I am correct, the ride is manufactured by IntaRide, which is the US division of Intamin. So I would guess that shipping the parts from Europe is not required.
I would also think that exchanging three pieces of track could also lead to the exchanging of supports for those pieces.

But maybe, MAVERICK IS SINKING already.

So the last four coasters CP build were all manufactured by Intamin/Intaride and all had their fair share of problems. But all of those rides were pushing boundaries and tried things that were never done before. I still think that the problems CP had with these rides are small compared to the massive worldwide prestige and drawing power they provide(d).

Whatever happens with Maverick shows that designers and manufacturers are clearly working at the margins of the technical and physical possibilties. It also proves that things turn out different in real life than on paper or with the most advanced CAD programs.

The first Gerstlauer 95° drop had to be tweaked several times before it became rideable. On paper it all looked great but there were still things that needed to be changed.

Zierer are changing things on Wicked right now and many Schwarzkopf and Arrow rides had changes after problems became apparent during operation.

The only rides that seem to operate exactly like planned are B&Ms and we are the first who blame them for that!

It's ridiculous to me that Intamin doesn't get structural things right first try. More supports for Xcelerator, more supports and track ties for the impulse coasters, etc. This time it's three sections of track that can't handle the forces being exerted on them.

I'm sure we're all crossing our fingers that Renegade is sweet and easy to maintain.

I dont know why Im suprised by this. Should have seen it coming from a mile away. Heres hoping CF finally dumps Intamin for good, between MF/TTD's seatbelt fiasco, TTDs continuing operating woes, WT's constant headaches and MF's lift snappings early in its life Intamin has been giving CP a black eye for almost ten years now.

Crain's Cleveland...

The ride element where the track is being replaced is a tight, 360-degree spiral called a heartline roll. Asked if that element is being changed or removed entirely, Mr. Edwards said, “It might be. It could be. A decision hasn’t been made yet. I have not heard what plans there might be to correct it.”

CedarPoint had a 4 coaster contract with intamin. (WT, MF, TD, and Now Maverick). I dont belive that they will be returning anytime soon. B&M, is a strong possibility.

wow, terrible. My friend is flying all the way up from Mexico in two weeks and he is not going to be able to ride Maverick. I have to say, I put the blame both on Intamin and Cedar Fair. Intamin for obvious reasons, as they designed the ride. However, you can not dismiss all responsibility off of Cedar Point. They purchased the ride from a company that had a reputation of this. If nothing else, they should have known from their own experiences. Honestly, I was shocked when I originally found out that Cedar Point was getting another Intamin design after the Dragster fiasco. This is frustrating, because ultimatley it is the parks responsibility to get the coaster operating on time. As the saying goes, if you play with fire, you are going to get burned.

^If it's the heartline roll, I wouldn't be surprised if it's removed. That's the only section of the ride that looked like some serious head banging could happen, to me anyway.

millrace, at least they announced it right away rather than letting people show up day one only to see the ride torn apart.

I'll make a bet with anyone that Renegade is going to be much more reliable than Maverick. Hopefully all the CF parks will be seeing new GCII coasters in the near future- they would make much more sense than these high-stakes gambles on Intamin crap.

They didn't announce it right away. They waited until the very last second to announce it. There's no way they JUST decided to redesign that section of track. If they had, it definitely won't be open in a month. You can't fabricate track that quickly.

Any good PR department would do the same thing. I'm sure they were hoping to have the replacement part there in time, but realized recently it just wasn't going to happen. That's when they announced it.

This is still a bummer. I feel really bad for CP now.

halltd...how long does it take to manufacture steel tubular track?

To me, if the heartline is removed due to excessive forces, it would be a design flaw. If that's the case, wouldn't Werner Stengel's company be more at fault than Intamin? If I understand it correctly, Stengel's group does the entire design and all of the calculations, and Intamin just builds it.

I have to say, it doesn't surprise me too much. One of the most talked about aspects of the ride when it was announced was how much speed it looked like it would have going through that roll. It's not like they could brake it to death right before it or the train wouldn't be able to get up the next hill.

- Aaron K