Cedar Points Chaos for Sale

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:41 PM
Well then....

Sorry about the confusion, kids, I just put two and two together... it look legit.

You gotta admit, the parks DO READ our postings from time to time.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:48 PM
I agree Ilovethevu' that it would be cool to see more of these smaller flats installed. But, for example, you mentioned the KMG Afterburner*. The one that Reithoffer bought has/had a sign mentioning the cost to bring it to you. With two trailers, it comes in at $2 million. So even the small-ish flats can be very expensive.

* If you didn't already know, this ride is already sold as a park version by Chance/Morgan (with eight sweeps instead of six) as the Revolution. It's been very popular.

I will agree as well that the themeparks can run things a little bit either on the slow or tame side compared to an independent park or carnival operator. An Obitor at your local fair is quite a different experience than say the one at Busch Gardens Europe.

But there are also limits to some people's tolerances. The Reithoffer-owned Huss Flipper was being run way too long in 03' (around six to seven minutes), and I saw a few people revisit their dinners as a result. There is usually a recommended ride cycle of about a minute:thirty seconds on any given flat for a reason.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:35 PM
The Park at MOA still has a Falling Star too -- a crazy one at that.
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Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:23 PM
I rode the Roto Shake at MOA labor day weekend. Still there, I assume.

I love Chaos, too, and am disappointed that they are being removed. It was one of Chance's most prolific rides, and their largest recent success, but I guess all it takes is a few accidents...

I thought C.P. "solved" some of the problems with the ride by retro-fitting the tubs with manual releases, although it was a drag for the ops and the riders who were left waiting. Shaved some off the capacity, too, I imagine.

Hamster Boy, the ride with the spinning drum and the dropping floor is the Rotor. The most recent version was also manufactured by Chance, and I think it's still on their list.

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Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:38 PM
I think long cycles on flats are great....I always have such a great time on the ones at Knoebels....I think most run about five minutes per cycle.

I hate how the ride's are always so short at the corporate owned places....usually seems like they start slowing down right when they're getting to full speed.

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Monday, December 25, 2006 10:49 PM
All park Chaos's should have manual releases if the panel release didn't work. The one I worked on did. That didn't always do the trick unfortunately.

Another problem the Chaos had was some of the tubs wouldn't go back to exact center at the end of the cycle, so the backup-bar and harness wouldn't open. Usually this was a case of too much weight, but not always. Thankfully, Chance had a solution for that as well.

I do remember a few times that the backup-bar would open but the harness would still be locked and the manual realease wouldn't do the trick. Again, as someone said, I got to know the maintenance guy pretty well.

Scraperguy, I don't think any of the newer flats at Knoebels run five-minutes. I'm pretty sure that the Power Surge runs the standard-length program (probably around 1:30), and Fandango comes in around 2:15-2:30, if that. Maybe the older-school manual-controlled stuff like the Whip (I'm assuming it's manually run) runs five-minutes, but I've never been on theirs. *** Edited 12/26/2006 3:58:05 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***

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