Cedar Point removing Frontier Fling?

Saw this on twitter earlier, looks like they're removing the frontier fling, especially since Cedar Point removed it from the website.

https://x.com/hawkvandelay/...4556531895

With that a SRF going seems like we know where Project 2026 is going.

What ever they put there I hope its not another High-Thrill coaster. Maybe a Vekoma family launch or family Gravity Group, but I really think another modern family coaster would help out a lot

I would prefer a log flume or even a dark ride (although that’s unlikely with the water and train going through that area.)

Coming in 2026 - The Revenge of Challenge Park

Frontier Fling? Sounds like a western US based Tinder.

They need a log flume. They've removed all of them except for the rapids. When they took out WWL, they promised a replacement, and that ended up being a huge failure. I don't know how marketable a water ride will be without a gimmick though. Turntable? Dark ride portion? Water coaster? I'd prefer a classic log flume over any of that, honestly.

If not a log flume, maybe something that isn't going to rip your face off. Big Bear Mountain at Dollywood is fantastic. Maybe something like that?

Or a wood coaster? The only wood coaster the park has is Blue Streak. Wood coasters fit the frontier theme nicely.

I'd love to see a few bridges, linking Snake River Falls area with the Camp Snoopy area. They already have walkways in place. I think we're going to see a bigger addition than just one ride.

GCI wood + Vekoma Family+ Western Dark Ride and keep the Playground, and all interact with the train, and river, and Millennium, and extend Boneville theme to the whole Paddewheel circle and use for Halloween as well. If really feeling it a steak house on the island, ala Knotts.

That would really catch up with Dollywood.

Catching up with a park they really don't compete with?

For real. I'm struggling to even find a connection other than the obvious fact that they're both amusement parks.

I mean, if the Pittsburgh Penguins added a new coach, a quarterback, some wide receivers, a strong defense, and some cheerleaders, they'd really catch up with the San Francisco 49ers.

If the Penguins needed a quarterback, they’d already have one. (For once, actually true.)

Sharpel007:

That would really catch up with Dollywood.

If only that mattered.

Well, there was that slight concern dating back to the season Dollywood snagged the Best Park award after hosting the award event itself. Maybe that’s it.

Every time that Cedar Point takes something out or plants some survey markers, people start making wishlists and we again go through the process of explaining to people what competition really is and what actually matters to consumers.

What does matter to consumers, aren’t we consumers?

Yes. A small niche of the consumer base.

Based on the eons-old dead thread that was resurrected today, I looked up the rumored last days of Kingda Ka (something I have yet to see confirmed) and the butthurt over the park not announcing it so the public can take last rides on it is predictably ridiculous. One comment said it felt "backstabby"...as if there's some nefarious, deliberate decision making by park execs explicitly to piss off enthusiasts.

That's not the consumer base parks cater to.

ApolloAndy:

If the Penguins needed a quarterback, they’d already have one. (For once, actually true.)

The Penguins should swing by Knoebels since they're in the area. (For once, kinda true?)

Vater:

the butthurt over the park not announcing it so the public can take last rides

You mean, the butthurt over not being able to drive 75 miles to the middle of New Jersey and pay $60 to find out it’s not running.

Vater:

as if there's some nefarious, deliberate decision making by park execs explicitly to piss off enthusiasts.

GCI wood + Vekoma Family+ Western Dark Ride + Steak House

A small niche of the consumer base

What does matter to consumers, aren’t we consumers?

Once again everyone misread my overthought tongue in cheek wish list… also everything I listed is very popular with the GP and family friendly and not enthusiast bent…

1. CP lacks any modern wood (esp compared to the rest of the expanded chain)it also comes with a low height requirement.
2. CP doesn’t have a new era family coaster, Dollywood and KI have two each.
3. CP hasn’t had a dark ride since 1996, also a dark ride anyone can ride, and in all weather.

Catching up with a park they really don't compete with?

In terms of flagship parks for each company they represent I think they kinda do.

I think CP/CF has caught onto what Herschened has done so well (and Hershey, and all pulling from the Mouse).

Good on property mid to high end resort hotels, vastly improved food, (Im not sure where Dollywood food was in the 90s?) improved landscaping, much improved place making and stabs at theming. Also CP was once the Golden Ticket darling in best park, and now Dollywood is the best park in NA. It also wins guest experience, family coaster, and family area. Even though CP technically has 4 kids areas. Hell it’s losing in this stuff now to Kings Island.

Also both have big western/frontier themed sections, with craft people working in them. CP has nailed Boardwalk and Western and floundered elsewhere. Expanding what they already have done with SV, Farmhouse Kitchen, CCMR Glow Up, etc, would work really well on SRF, Millennium Island, and expand what already works so well, while vastlly improving the ride options for families.