Cedar Point: Planet Snoopy for 2008

It may not be accross the board, but it was mentioned before that the cost of relocating a ride was about 50 cents on the dollar vs. buying a new ride.

^ You're quick. (and with a much better answer)

^^ (Scratching Head)

How much do the CF construction workers make? They must have one heck of a union.

What you basically sayng is: that the cost of deconstruction is equal to the cost a new one, minus the installation. Have you seen the price of steel lately? I'm thinking you might be wrong on this one. *** Edited 1/5/2008 2:24:10 AM UTC by Blackie***

I know that we (WoF) would be MORE THAN happy to take Beaverland off GL's hands as we are getting NOTHING yet again this year. :(

Not a good sign iWoF - gets your rides in quick if they start pilferring your attractions. RIP Zambezi Z and Orient O

We have a large demolition job currently going right now. We're getting $230 a ton for the steel. And that's already taking into account that the scrap company is giving us the container for free and not charging us for transportation. We just have to fill it up. I remember when Steel was about $20 a ton and you had to drop it off at the scrap yard.

Unless there is funny accounting going on, its costing a hell of a lot to send Voodoo, Dominator, and X-Flight to their new parks. It's not a stretch to think something as small as BLMR wouldn't be worth moving.

Although that brings up the question... who would buy it when they could just get a new one?

I think the real answer (along with why all these other rides are being sold) is that Cedar Fair doesn't have plans to use them in 2008 or 2009 and they would rather have cash now to help their income. Why dump some perfectly good rides when they could just store them for next to nothing at any one of their parks until it was introduced a few seasons from now? Hell... Six Flags has been holding onto some of Astroworld's stuff for forever now. Even if they didn't want to use them as rides, they could use them as parts for the copies in their other parks.

This isn't a few old/worn-out rides being sold to second rate parks. Some of these are perfectly good. Cedar Fair is desperate for the cash.

I know that the KI sites all have the rumor (which is sounding more and more like a wish every day now) that they will get the Ferris Wheel.

I noticed that Grizzly Run is listed for sale. I may be naive on this but what do you really get if you but a used rapids ride? The lift, boats, and station. Seems to me like the ride is largely concrete that could not be transported.

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viper432@aol.com said:
Unless there is funny accounting going on, its costing a hell of a lot to send Voodoo, Dominator, and X-Flight to their new parks. It's not a stretch to think something as small as BLMR wouldn't be worth moving.

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The smaller and lighter a payload, the less it will cost to ship, logically. As far as the actual shipping goes (not counting other costs like pouring new footers and assembly/disassembly), moving BLMR probably wouldn't cost much more than moving a whole carnival from one locale to another.

And we're only talking from Aurora to Sandusky, after all. All told, I'd be surprised if it would cost CF more than $100K to move it, even at today's heightened shipping costs. So it seems to me that wouldn't be an overwhelming factor.

If they relocate the rides guess who pays for deconstruction, moving, and reconstruction? Yup...Cedar Fair.

If they sell the rides guess who pays for deconstruction, moving, and reconstruction? Yup...the buyer!

Now does it all make sense?

Remember that they said on the conference call that relocating a ride costs about half as much as it would to buy it new. So it's not "free," but there is some substantial savings.

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Blackie said:
I didn't see Americana (Ferris Wheel) listed for sale. I can't wait to see where it ends up.

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I remember reading that there were several parks in the chain that were interested in it, and considering that a few of the old Paramount Parks don't have Ferris Wheels, I wouldn't be surprised if it showed up at one of them.