Cedar Point announces Skyhawk

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So what IS going on with the WWL site, then? Why tear it down if you're not going to put anything on it for next year? Have I missed something? I need some sedatives to get through this.......

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Wow, are you new? The world will in fact exist beyond next season. Could the WWL possibly be used after 2006?

Ever hear of TTD?

.*** This post was edited by djDaemon 11/1/2005 11:02:46 AM ***

Are Tony and Tyler *listening* about the longer ride cycle? What about Stan and Sandy?

Or maybe DK *did* hear about it and has chosen to "upgrade" to a gold-standard Screamin' Swing with an extra 15-30 seconds of ride time? One can only HOPE...

One possible reason to the dismantling of WWL now is that there could be something BIG going there; something big enough to that they would not have time to remove WWL AND build the new attraction(s) in the same off-season.

I'm excited about this ride, because the one at Wild Adventures is fun but this should take it to a new level. I'm going to be riding it quit a bit when I come up to The Point.

I cant believe how many people post comments about a screaming swing and not on Beech Bend's new coaster. I thought this site was called coaster buz,not Cedar Point Central. I forgot Cedar Point can do no wrong and all other parks should bow down to them.

You have to realize the familiarity most people have to Cedar Point as opposed to Beech Bend. I can assume the same thing would have happened to Holiday World when they built Raven. Now, when they announced The Voyage, it was the talk of the town. Beech Bend will have to build their reputation as Holiday World did. Also, Cedar Point is arguably a destination park which will attract people from much more of the country than Beech Bend will.

So why did you add another post here, but have not yet contributed to the thread you say lacks the proper attention?

LOL....cruel irony, eh, Walt? LOL

Wow. Thats it from the Best Amusement Park on the Planet. Oh well. I just have one question how exactly do they figure MaxAir goes 70mph. As slow as that thing swings back and forth. I just dont understand.

socalcoaster:

Considering some basic physics and such, MaxAir going 70mph does not sound unreasonable.

Here are some basic dimensions

height of center hub = 85feet

rotating speed of disk = 8rpm

top height at 120 degree = 137feet

diameter of disk = 44 feet

so from intution the maximum speed is at the bottom of the swing, and when the disk is rotating such that its component of horizontal velocity can be added to the component provided by the motion of the pendulum. Using a rough calculation (ignorning friction and such), the speed at the bottom is:

V =Sqrt(2*137ft*32.ft/sec^2)+8rpm*(2pi/60)*44/2feet

V=112.4ft/sec

V = 76.6mph

However this calculation was very approximate, and I am not exactly sure how the drive works with the pendulum works. I am ok with them saying that it goes 65 or 70mph as a top speed, especially considering that they say it pulls 4.5 to 5 g's at the bottom. Considering that the radius of the pendulum is 85 feet, and the amount of positive g's is a function of the radius and square of velocity, I believe the value of around 70 mph.

The one thing of note is that, the pendulum might not seem to be swinging back and forth that fast However it is like any rotating mass, where its greaters velocity is at the outer tip of the arm (so basically a velocity field, with velocity of 0 at radius of 0). So the velocity of the seat when the pendulum is at the bottom is just the radial distance of the passenger to the fixed point in the pendulum, multiplied by whatever rotational speed the pendulum is moving, plus/minus the xcomponent that is provided by the rotation of the disk.

Back on topic though, I don't think this addition is a bad addition at all. Considering that they did remove a log flume, which are fun family water rides, they had to add something for a similar crowd. The log flume was an Arrow Hydroflume, which Kings Island, and many other parks removed, after many years of service. So not really a surprising move. Also adding high capacity large flat rides, such as this S&S swing, Huss Giant Frisbee, etc, are nice additions inbetween major coaster addtions. They are typically less than 8 million, and take up very small real estate.

I do agree that not every addition is going to drive the gate up. That is unreasonable, especially considering that some years they can't affort to add a 20 million dollar coaster. Attendance I think for parks that are very well established such as a Kings Island, a Cedar Point, etc, are not going to vary much year to year. I think Kings Island and Cedar Point have been around 3.2 to 3.5 million for around 10 years or more. Adding new additions each year maintains that attendance number, and a big new coaster drives it up hopefully a .2 or .3 million.