Cedar Point - Thoughts and Questions for Future Discussion

^Nah, let's request a Vekoma SLC!
;)

^ While were at it why not a dungeon for bad park goers.

The Boardwalk would be so cool....I wonder if they'd need to call it something else though? Since, Hersheypark's new waterpark used the name "Boardwalk"....must be a copyright issue there somewhere right?

Anyway, I hope DT stays, but I guess it wouldn't fit in with the idea. I love the Giant Wheel there though, hope they don't move that....it should fit in anyway with the idea, if it ever happens.

And, NOOO, don't get rid of Mean Streak either, it's one of my favorite CP coasters....probably because I'm so parshal to wood, but I think it's alot better than what you guys give it credit for.

I love the somewhat unrealistic Boardwalk idea, but it's a great one nonetheless. The aesthetics of a wooden coaster along the beach would be incredible. The park is lacking the room already (forgive me for stating the obvious).

Well, they'd have room for a new woodie if they just nuked DT and ran it around WT. Actualy, that might be cool with the WT towers poking out of the woodie's structure. The stadium's probably going to be demo'd any day now.

Heck, let's do something cool and strech it out over the midway (or under it) and have a turn-around in the BS plaza.

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Audioslaved said:
I called CP ... and then I was like why dont you get rid of Mean Streak because it is lame (in nicest word possible) and why dont you add a GCI or Gravity Group (of course she didnt know what I was talking about) Then she said they have a comment section on their site.

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Please tell me you're kidding.

DT does not need to go, there are not many bobsleds hanging around anymore and it would be ashame to ride of this unique ride.

However with the open area i discussed at the begining you have great beach access and a newly themed boardwalk with a beach front coaster would be a nice touch. Does not even have to be anything big, just a newly themed area on the beach.

And as far as all the kiddie land stuff goes, I just think an updated and condensed kid section would help round the park off a little more. Because if you think about it from the kids point of view, it is a long walk from the MaxAir midway to Gemini midway. Why cant they just have one nice big set up? I know i don't like walking back and forth from MF to Raptor, I am pretty sure kids and parents alike don't like back and forth from kids areas.

I would rather see the kiddies spread out. Who wants one giant mass of strollers & crying toddlers?

Yeah i guess thats true, but look at alot of these places. One way in and out, put the kids in there and the parents hang out by the exit. At least that is what you typically see. Not saying that all the kids stuff needs to be there but bri9ng most off it together with some new rides and themeing and i think kids will dig it. Lets be honest, most people under 48" tall don't beg there parents to go to CP, they want disney or something else. And we all know that kids can get there parents to do alot. So if you get the smaller ones to want to come you help out business, boost attendance, and you dont nessecarily go over capacity on the rides you already have, you just up it on some of the ones that I feel are under utilized.

Well all that and then some of us know which areas to avoid the strollers

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Hopman said:
Oh yeah! BEACHFRONT WOODIE for CP!!! CP needs another woodie, AND a coaster that ISN'T made by Intamin.

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Not even an Intamin woodie?

Gravity Group FTW!

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Neuski said:
I would rather see the kiddies spread out. Who wants one giant mass of strollers & crying toddlers?

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I've always wondered why most parks like to sequester children in a seperate area. Seems to me that it would make more sense and be better for everybody if the kiddie rides were mixed in with regular rides. One parent can ride a big ride while the other can take the kid on a kiddie ride next to it.

I guess I still harbor some resentment from being forced to sit at a "children's table" at family holiday get togethers. :)

^I think alot of people do. I like "mixing in the rides" too. Sure, a separate kiddie section *too* might be nice, but it seems to me it's more fun MOST of the time when the toddler can ride his rides with one "chicken" ;) parent, while the other more adventurous parent is riding the thrill ride that's "right there".

Then again, maybe cellphones have rendered that idea kinda obsolete. Which is something millrace and I can *both* relate to...LOL!

Cedar Point is on the right track with all the recent improvements made to the old Oceana midway.

IMO, what would sort of detract from a new woodie on the beach is the fact that Wicked Twister is located pretty much in the center of the area.

I agree that Disaster Transport needs to go. I think the old diving show stadium should go as well. Even Chaos should go since it seems there's a problem with them and every park out there has removed their rides. But in a way I like the low-key approach of the midway. Like Frontier Trail, it's a nice respite from the other busy midways. If they need to move some flats around to make room for something else, like what they did with Chaos and Troika, this is the area they should move them too.

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Hopman said:
Oh yeah! BEACHFRONT WOODIE for CP!!! CP needs another woodie, AND a coaster that ISN'T made by Intamin.

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Why not make it a beach front wooden coaster that is by Intamin??? You know how CP is really into breaking those records and the tallest fastest wooden coaster record is still out there. Contract Intamin to build a El Toro type of ride, just much larger.

I will admit that I do like the GCI twister idea over on the beach. It kinda brings back memories of old time amusment parks and old style twister coasters that had left the industry, but are starting to make a comeback. I think it all depends on which direction they want to take that area of the park

No Intamin....please, lol. El Toro isn't a REAL wood coaster, and it's highly overated. They don't need to worry about height and speed, that's what they did with Mean Streak....the GCI Twister would be perfect.

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SK610 said:

...the tallest fastest wooden coaster record is still out there.

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So is the tallest, fastest steel. :)

-Tambo

*** Edited 5/24/2007 12:43:36 PM UTC by tambo***

If they want to keep DT as a coaster, all they have to do is remove the monstrosity of a building over the ride. Enclose the track in one long tube and then intermingle the new woodie amongst the steel tube. I think if done properly, it would be very dramatic and cool.

I also think CP has plenty of tall and fast things. If they really do put in a woodie, I hope it's relatively low and provides a really fun ride. You don't have to be mega tall or fast to be fun. I love all the coasters at Disney and besides like two, none of them are all that fast or tall.

The point of a "boardwalk" area is to still be able to see the lake. So, you don't want a big hulking wood coaster taking up that entire view. I don't see why they couldn't use an Intamin plug-n-play and install something like Blue Streak - but different. You could have low bunny hills going across the beach and have some wicked helices at the ends.

I also think a key point would be the ability to walk under the ride to the actual boardwalk. What's a "boardwalk" section without the actual boardwalk? I guess this means you'd have to be able to get on the other side of Wicked Twister too. *** Edited 5/24/2007 3:31:54 PM UTC by halltd***

No beachfront ANYTHING if you ask me.

Beachfront + CP = CP winds = sand in my eye = OUCH. Twisted Wicker is too close already!

-'Playa

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millrace said:

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Neuski said:
I would rather see the kiddies spread out. Who wants one giant mass of strollers & crying toddlers?

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I've always wondered why most parks like to sequester children in a seperate area. Seems to me that it would make more sense and be better for everybody if the kiddie rides were mixed in with regular rides. One parent can ride a big ride while the other can take the kid on a kiddie ride next to it.

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Thats sort of the brilliance of Cedar Point's design right? They have small sections of kids rides so the older kids and parents can have their fun while the younger ones ride their little rides as a diversion.