There are a few boards in the Cincinnati area. But some are hard to see if you aren't looking for them.
I'd say that attendance in Ohio is very regional. True some families will travel across state every few years to see what's going on up or down state, but for the most part people will tend to stay in their region. It's just north of I-70 where the line gets fuzzy. But both parks look to their market for the bulk of the attendance. PKI definately has an edge because of their longer operating season as well as less competition for summer money.
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He was talking about LAST year, when PKI built Rugrats and CP was still riding the wave from Millenium Force.
My question is, how does PKI do better than CP when CP has a much larger market? CP draws from Cleveland, Akron, Canton, Detroit, Toledo, Columbus, and some even from Pittsburgh and Erie (about 11 million people). PKI draws from Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Lexington, Louisville, and Indianapolis (about 8 million people).
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PKI definately has an edge because of their longer operating season as well as less competition for summer money.
I disagree as far as the competition for summer money. Let's compare Cleveland to Cincinnati in the summer of 01 (I live in both cities right now, so I can do this).
Cincinnati: The Beach, Coney Island, Surf Cincinnati, the Reds, water sports on the river, Kentucky Speedway, and casinos on the River
Cleveland: SFWoA, Dover Lake, Indians, water sports on the lake
Dover Lake and Surf Cincinnati are both jokes. Coney Island, The Beach, and Kentucky Speedway combined attract about as many people as SFWoA.
The Reds are a lot more popular than the Indians, at least in their respective cities. After all, Cincinnati is a baseball town whereas Cleveland is more of a football town. The lake is more popular as the river as far as activities go. The 'cultural' opportunities are about equal in the two cities, with Cincinnati having the bigger zoo and Cleveland having more artsy stuff. Where Cincinnati really increases its competition is in festivals. Cleveland's festivals are tiny compared to Cincinnati's. There were nearly a million people at once in downtown Cincinnati two seperate times over the last two months.
Take this and you'll see that PKI actually has more competition for the summer dollar than CP.
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quailroberts said:My question is, how does PKI do better than CP when CP has a much larger market?
PKI is open more days than CP. The weather is dramatically different. I can see the point with competetion for summer dollars but your whole arguement is all pretty specualtive and not really based on facts or statistics. CP is a part of Erie culture, PKI is part of the Cincy culture, and their both killer parks so a lot of people go. PKI is just open longer, bottom line.
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I would dare say on any given day theer are more people from Michigan at teh point then even Ohio. I woudl love to see that statistic.
PKI draws people statewide, here in the Toledo Market we have PKI ads quite often. Its only a 2 1/2 hour drive from here to there.
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I would venture to say that it depends where you live in Michigan (this excludes enthusiasts :) ).
Michigan is probably evenly split with people from that state visiting SFGAm and CP. I have seen my fairshare of Michigan plates at the Chicago park as well.
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Right duck boy. :) That would be southeast Michigan.
Southwest Michigan however is closer to SFGAm.
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Exactly Chitown. I live about as close to the middle though. I am only 11 miles from Indiana as well. Coasterwise it's a very good place to be. SFGAM, SFWOA, IB, Fun Spot, PKI, CP, and MIA are all a day trip from my house. 48 coasters all within a days drive, gotta love it.
Heck one day I went to MIA, left at Noon, got to SFGAM at 4 and left at 9. Of course I got home at god knows what time but it was still a day trip.
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Come one come all LOL.
BTW last year at GAM we were talking to some kids and they were talking about this coaster in Ohio that gos straight down ubderground and is the tallest coaster in the world and its at this place by Philadelphia.
Don't ask me how Phillie got anywhere near Ohio but upon talking to them I said "Do you mean Millennium Force?" They responded in the affirmative.
My oh my kids these days.
-Brent who says that History and Geography are two of the three most important subjects in school along with English.
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I think the park enjoys an international reputation, especially amongst park-goers. I am surprised at the number of British folks who know about the park.
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Quialroberts-
I think your perspective on the two cities is a little off center.
Cleveland is about double the market size of Cincinnati. When you refer to the "festivals" in Cinti i think of the "Taste of" (which cleveland has), and Oktoberfest plus numerous others that are all about the same size and run downtown around the Main Street OTR area or down by the fountain or some where in the downtown basin area. And while cleveland doesn't have as many of those particular "festivals", they do have some larger draws like the race and airshow. Furthermore Akron has plenty of smaller town type festivals year round that draw from the cleveland market. For example Labor Day weekend is always slow at the park (SFWOA that is) because the Indians and/or Browns play, there's the airshow plus a taste of type event downtown, there's a major event at Akron plus the garden variety Labor day things. Cincinnati never had that type of line up in one weekend. There is a marginally larger music scene in cleveland (but sorry compared to any other big city venue, it's just that the scene in Cinti is abysmal). The Indians drew larger crowds through the past ten years than the Reds (both will draw squat now). Finally the cleve zoo is about double the size and number of attractions of Cinti's and it's true that the art scene is not only larger in cleveland but also more progressive.
Cincinnati can be the backwater as far as some things go. It's pretty conservative in many aco****s. It's half the size of Cleveland. Cleveland has a lot more to choose from, but then it's much bigger. That being said i do love Cincinnati and would take any chance to move back down there. It's just that there is a lot more competition for CP in Cleveland then for PKI in CIncinnati. Least of all another respectable park.
You are all missing the fact however that PKI draws everyone from Dayton and alot more peeps from Columbus then CP does while CP draws everyone from Toledo and Detroit.
It all evens out hough with the longer season makign the difference. Anyone at PKI closing day can attest to this, it was so packed and so cold that I slept in the car for 2 hours waiting for people to just leave.
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