CB Games Contests

Wow, this is turning into a big advertisement for the quality of people's parks...

Does the person that suggested a panel get to volunteer to be a judge? ;)

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Iced said:

One thing I am still not sure on is where we will submit the final entries. Will we post them on CBG or will the be sent to Lord Gonchar or KTS?

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Most likely to the saved games section of CB Games. I'll post rules with the upload. But it seems to make sense that way. You'll download the scenario, build on it and upload your saved game. The three judges for each contest can get the files straight off of the site. Each contest will most likely have it's own thread on this board too, for announcement of winners and general discussion for each contest. As it comes together it'll all make sense and we'll get a feel for what works. But as of right now, there's the plan.

I'm glad to see so many people into the idea :)

EDIT - I spell goodest

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*** This post was edited by Lord Gonchar 7/23/2003 12:16:07 AM ***

I'd love to be a judge if needed. The idea sounds great.

LG, do you think that we could have a separate page for contest entries?

That'd sure avoid any clogging of the boards for those just interested in browsing and not being a part of the contest. I'd imagine sorting through a bunch of contest entries would be cumbersome if that's not what you're looking for. It could ultimately turn people off from the site.

Maybe Jeff could just add another choice in the drop-down menu for "RCT2 Contest." I don't think that that would be too hard of a programming change.

I definitely like the idea of all contests being put out in scenario form. Keeps everyone on a level playing field.

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Come on, fhqwgads!

I love the idea as a seperate page. When the contest ends we could flush out all the entries.

Is the contest going to be just one round or a like three rounds with eleminations?

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One round, one entry, one winner. Let's do all or nothing :)

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I think all entries should be mailed to the judges, and here's why: If all participants submit their files in a public area, then people would be able to view the files and know what they HAVE to beat. You see? It's kinda like cheating in a way.

They do it that way over at rct2.com for VP of the month. The judges are made up of staff members (in this case, LG and KTS), a randomly selected member, and I believe the previous winner. And everyone EMAILS their sumbissions. You'll have to go over to the site for all their rules.

Anyhow, this is moving along great. :)

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Hmmm. That's an interesting point. Of course the obvious answer is to wait until the last moment to upload, but everyone hitting the board at once seems silly too.

The alternative is to allow multiple entries. You got "one upped" - back to the drawing board.

The truth is probably more along the lines of you never know what's going to appeal to each contest's judges. You may think you outdid someone, but will the judges?

It is a valid concern. Anyone else care to chime in?

I'm still wishing there was a way to work the file ratings into the equation somehow. Three rotating judges with authorative decision is cool and as fair as it gets, but there's something about "the voice of the people" that appeals to me too. Granted there'd be people messing with the system, but I have a few ideas that could get around that. (i.e. votes only count from screen names that uploaded an entry) - it'd be a fourth voice in choosing the winner. I dunno...

Let's see if a seperate board for contests is possible and go from there.

Keep tossing the ideas out here and remember to pass your contest scenarios along to me at scenarios@coasterimage.com

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I agree with LG. Emailing the entries to the judges seems a little paranoid to me. I was thinking of this competition more in the spirit of sharing ideas than just trying to win, so anyone should be able to see them and comment.

Besides, think about the effect...no one is going to think, "Well, these other entrees are lame so I'll just make one slightly better." The only thing that might happen is that people will have to up their game more than ever, and that can't be a bad thing unless all you care about is winning. Allowing open competition can only make people try harder and make better rides, and with so many awesome rides to download, everyone will win :)

I don't think you have to worry about being "one-upped" if you just submit your absolute best try.

If there's only one entry per contest allowed, then you should try to do the very best that you can before you submit your entry. There's no shame in not being the winning designer. If someone else does better, good for them.

I also think that the "people's votes" should definitely count. Either as 1/4 of the vote (with the other 3/4 of the vote divided as 1/4 going each to: LG, KtS, and the previous winner.)

Either that, or the masses should vote on all of the entries, and the three judges would then pick between the top three (five?) entries to declare a final winner. This last choice would seem to over ride any "ballot-box stuffing" that would occur, and would keep the fans interested.

I'm honestly not interested in entering a contest where only 2 or 3 people would judge it. I think this is a "by the people, for the people" type of thing. If there were prizes, it'd be different; but since it's just for fun, let everyone in on the game.

I sure am using "quotation marks" a whole lot in this post.

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"Come on," "fhqwgads!"

I'm a big fan of "quotation marks" :)

I agree. The "people" should have some say in it. I also see the potential abuse with certain "people" creating 2 or 3 gazillion screen names and screwing with the system. If you saw the top 10 ratings the day before CB Games went offline, you saw how easy it is to do.

The three judges would be KTS, the previous winner, and the creator of the contest scenario - that's the plan as it stands. Which, now that I type it, I just realized there's no set rules for *how* they decide. Do they all have to agree? Does each pick one? WTF? I guess we need to work that out before we start this, huh?

Even still, I agree that user ratings need to fit in somewhere. So who volunteers to be the genius that drop the perfect idea on us here?

I still haven't received a single scenario. scenarios@coasterimage.com

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I say we just average the 3 judges ratings and the "people's"l rating together, and the top average takes it (perhaps we could exclude ratings lower than 5 in the "people's" rating to avoid foul play). For the judges ratings, I think they could use either a harder scale of 10 (only the very best gets a 9 or 10) or maybe even a larger scale so that they could be more precise with their ratings.

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*** This post was edited by mantis man 7/25/2003 9:26:04 PM ***

So hows the contest setting up? Are we good to go?

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*** This post was edited by Iced 7/31/2003 11:12:22 AM ***
*** This post was edited by Iced 7/31/2003 11:20:28 AM ***

Contests - I still want to do them. Not sure about a special section dedicated to them yet though. I only got 4 scenarios so far - so if you want this contest thing to fly then SEND ME SOME CONTEST SCENARIOS! Also, Kick The Sky is currently without a working copy of RCT and he's kind of a major backbone in this operation. It will get off the ground if everyone contributes.

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I just sent one in. I hope the contests get started soon!

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so whens the first contest gonna be? Or should we just look on the coasterbuzz games site to find out details?

Back to the judging aspect, perhaps you could have 4 judges: LG, KTS, previous contest winner, and rating. That way the ratings are still a part of the judging process, but only 25% of the "score." Just a thought! :)

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