Hello. I have riddent the Boss at sfsl loads of times, and have always enjoyed the ride. While the ride isnt silky smooth, I never found it rough, the layout just provides some tremendous G's. So what is your opinion on the ride. I am not a fan of the G-Trains, but they are Beautiful! Thanks!
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I enjoyed the Boss much more this season after heeding some advice and going for the very front seat, significantly better ride for some reason. The strong laterals make me hang on tight, and the layout is just fine, it along with the Legend and Roar (SFA) are my fav woodens. My most recent visit was right after Mem. Day, two trains and pretty respectable dispatch times help make it it rerideable. On the other hand, I have never seen Mr. Freeze run two trains, but then again I only went three times last year.
Its a great ride. the layout is very nice and I love seeing it back on the hill. Six Flags justs needs to put the g-trains on SE and put the eagle trains on the Boss (like press day) and things would be much better. But either way it is still my favorite Woodie.
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I love The Boss. It still doesn't get the good rating it deserves. The one reason I don't like it is because of the trains. My knees got murdered whenever I rode this ride this year and last. ------------------ Celebration City will suprise you in 2004.... Silver Dollar City will blow you away in 2005 ;)
I rode it in 2000. It was the first coaster I'd been on in over 20 years, and had no idea what I was in for. It was terrifying and exhilerating and THE reason I'm now a coaster fanatic.
Is it rough? The only world class woodie I can compare it to is the Texas Giant, and people say it's brutal, but I don't know the difference. I'd like to hear honest comparisons, so I can gauge the ones that everone talks about.
I'm a big guy, and the lap bar on all PTC trains hits me in the diaphram on every drop. Even Zingo is painful to me. I dont remember the G-trains being painful.
I went to sfstl on opening day....and the boss was actually a decent ride compared to when i rode it at the end of the 2002 season. And later on that same day, Mr. Freeze was running both sides. First time ive ever seen it run both sides, and a train was launching about every 30seconds. Makes the line move so much faster.
Well this summer starting on the 30th of May I went on a month vacation, hitting 11 parks and seeing a bunch of family. I live in Az and We drove so it was the 1st of june until I hit any of the parks. I went on the 3rd of june. The 1st of june is branson was party cloudy, the 2nd of june was cloudy and rainy so Celebration City was desolate. On the 3rd it was cloudy, a little sprinkly and freaking cold since I had only brought shorts and shirts to wear. Well I had gone to SFSL 2 years ago and remembered it being a great fun place. My opinion has now changed...
We started out in line for Boss but it had technical difficulties and closed. So I went and rode Screamin Eagle, it was pretty bumpy, bnot rough but bumpy. Then They opened the Boss again. Its line appeard to be about a fifteen minute wait. But WAIT! They had taken off the second train so the line CRAWLED. We rode in the back the first ride of the day, and holy s@#t! that was so rough. I don't have several hundred coasters under my belt, but I have a cool 104 so I have been on some great ones, and Boss gets my vote for having the most potential...
In the back it has about 3 good long lasting airtime, but nothing to severe. It rattled me so much that I was debating going on it again. I only rode it twice in 2001 but I don't remember it being that bad, actually it was in my top ten in 2001. I then waited another half an hour to do the front, but discovering that the front was to long expecially when only 2 people move every 4 minutes I got the second seat quicker, in the front it has a lot more air, about 4 moments of some good air. But it still gave me a wicked headache and keep in mind i am not a coaster virgin.
Well to bring a long story to a close SFSL went from my most loved six flags to my most hated park. It was dirty (In line for screamin eagle you could see several turkey bones pitched onto a roof, it was over grown, the ride ops were rude, it was poorly managed and the up keep on the rides is horrid. There is absolutely no way that I will beleive that it is smart for six flags to say "If Item is lost you may never get it back because of the large area the boss covers." So all of the kids that one the regulation sized looney tunes basketballs were NOT allowed to leave them in the station, but had to take them on the BOSS with them.
SFSL needs about 10 million to get into the mainstream again, The Boss needs to be retracked, because I have ridden on 2 other big woodies that use Gers trains and they weren't half as rough as the Boss. And they need to replace the 2, 6 car gers trains with 2, 7 car PTCs. The airtime isn't very intense in the back and this is a BIG ride soit could use 7 car trains, but most of all the maintence needs to be better.
I still give the Boss an 8 / 10 because it could EASILY be a 10/10 if an initiative was taken to make it get to be a top 10. This park broke my heart, because My least favorite coaster in 2001 now is my favorite coaster at SFSL, Freeze.
P.S. It took me till Villian to discover that the roughness is cut in half by riding in the VEry front, but Boss is just rougher than the Villain anyway.
Two rides on The Boss, two very different opinions.....1st ride was next to back on the green train, basically pretty rough....2nd ride was very front of the purple train, and that ride will get Boss a favorable ranking in *my* next wooden poll...after this year, my wooden rankings have shuffled, but I expect Boss to come in just below top-10. I agree with the opinion that Boss *could* be a top-5 woodie with excellent maintenance and better trains (apologies to Chuck...). ------------------ It seems today, that all you see, are violins in movies, and sax on TV....
I agree with you Rollergator, really 98% of the coasters depend on where you sit. and in which train. With Knott's since they have three trains and work all year round each train is off for 4 months, and then put on and the older one gets off. Well at the Winter Coaster Solace the copper train was being a bear, and the gold was riding much better, so it can depend on the train and where you sit. With The villain in the back and the second to front it is a good ride but nothing to special because it is a bit rough, but in the front it scores a top 5 rating for me, the airtime on the second hill is great, and the turning bunny hops are so much fun. It just breaks my heart that the boss was taken care of better because it could and would get a top 10 placing. If they retracked it and added a 7 car PTC train , and kept better up keep I think it could kick Timbers butt. Not the Raven, though, the Raven in the back is something special. IMHO the only woodie I have found better than Raven is Cornball because Cornball is what a woodie should be, and it is smaller than 90 percent of the mjor woodies.
My opinion on the Boss is this - with so many woodies out there that are better rides, why waste your time and get bruised for a mediocre ride? I loved the Boss the first year, but it has since became a un-rideable ride. It is tolerable in the front seat, but don't even try the back seat unless you have an appointement with a chiropractor (sp?) the next day. You can't hold your arms up on the ride unless you want hurt even worse. I think that if the ride had Millennium Flyers on it, it would be a better ride (or even PTCs). G-trains just -- to put a fine point on it -- suck.
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Only time I rode it was last summer. I actually did not like it at all. It had a lot of potential and there were some good moments, but the trains were terrible and the lap bar was brutal on my thighs. It didn't even feel like it was tracking correctly (lots of rattle and shuffle in the turns). My friends and I much preferred riding Scooby over and over than Boss. I rode it mostly in axle rows towards the back, so I guess it's my own fault, but it is definitely a ride that could stand some PTC trains.
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I was as at SFStL yesterday on the 4th. First ride of the day (and my first time on it) was The Boss. I was actually on the first train of the day. Walked up, no line, headed to the back seat not knowing what to expect. Geez. I love wooden coasters and maybe I haven't ridden a lot of CCI's other than The Raven and The Legend, but this coaster was really rough. I will say that it's very exhilarating as the trains fly through all the wooden superstructure. I think the layout is brilliant, especially how the helix is placed near the entrance to the coaster. Went back and rode it again in the front seat (loved the open front) and this time it seemed only slightly more smooth. Still, I couldn't have ridden this immediately again without getting a severe migraine. Seems The Raven and The Legend are so much smoother. I don't know why. The Screamin' Eagle was running in fine form although it needs a new paint job. For a coaster thats almost 30 years old, it runs as smooth or smoother than it's 3 year old baby brother The Boss. Lots of nice airtime! Mr. Freeze was incredible. I had never ridden a LIM powered coaster and the take-off through the tunnel is otherworldly. They were running 2 trains with side by side loading (hint: when you get inside the loading building take the line to the left side...it's sort of hidden and the wait on that side is about half the wait than on the other side). Rode all the coasters, and SFStL wasn't as crowded as I thought it would be on the 4th. Excalibur was even running all day - very unique ride! By the way, the park was relatively clean yesterday.
I rode Boss for the first time last month. First ride back seat in the dark, followed by around 25 rides over two days. I thought it was just awesome. Relentless pacing, tons of air and that helix.........Sure, it's a tad rough in places but for me the overall fun/roughness quotient wass very high indeed. If anyone cares it's now my third favorite woodie behind Tonnerre de Zeus and Megafobia and ahead of Timbers, Raven, Legend........
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I still don't get the G-trains, why G-trains! Most people commented on the roughness. The roughness is just something that comes along with a woodie of that height, we ALL know that by now, get over it.
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