B&M's without a midcourse brake...

Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:48 AM

Hey everyone!

I'm really interested in the different B&M's that do not have a midcourse brake. Rides like Georgia Scorcher, Superman: Ultimate Flight, Batman: The Ride, Talon, Iron Wolf (It looks like it could/used to have a midcourse brake, but maybe they removed it or something), Batman: Dark Knight, etc. I'm especially interested in Batman: Dark Knight, because it has such an interesting layout. I've never even ridden it, but I already love it! haha Anyways, maybe 'm just hoping that my home park, SFSTL, would get one of these smaller B&M's, because I don't really see SFSTL getting a large B&M anytime soon. But I could be wrong! Anyways, what rides did I fail to mention?

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:53 AM
Well, the only B&Ms I have gone on that have no mid-course brake was Iron Wolf and B:TR. They are fast, smooth, and intense throughout the whole ride.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:56 AM
Iron Wolf, while having a level flat area, never had a midcourse brake (nor no I believe it ever will). But the undisputed (IMO) king of non-MCBR B&Ms has to be Top Gun: The Jet Coaster @ Carowinds. Additionally, Vortex (x2), Dueling Dragons and of course all the B:TR incarnations are (midcourse) brakeless.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:57 AM

i'm in the same boat (or train :)) as gamfam, only those two for me.

yeah from what i've heard iron wolf was built so that a midcourse could be added if the second half was too intense, but it opened to rave reviews and so it was never installed.

13 years later, some might say it could use a little braking there... but i personally think it's still a great ride, albeit a bit rough

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:59 AM
Superman Atraccion de Acero doesn't have a midcourse-brake as well.. :)

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:01 AM

Where are the Vortex rides located? I know about the Vortex @ PKI, but that's not a B&M, and it has a MCBR, so I can't remember. I know I've probably heard it a thousand times, and I'm just having a brain cramp, but I can't remember them. lol! Please help me out! haha

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:05 AM

Oh! I remember! The Vortexes (Vortices?) at Carowinds and PGA? yay!

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:07 AM

The red B&M standup Vortex is located at Paramount's Carowinds, and is one of the shortest B&M's I've ever seen. No need for mid-course breaks because your back in the station as soon as you go out.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:09 AM

I have been on Talon, the Ice Dragon, and B:TR at SFGadv. I found all 3 rides exciting until the very end, with great pacing and a good variety of elements. I generally like rides without brakeruns because it keeps up the pace and excitement.

Other notable B&M's without midcourse brakes are Nemesis, Superman at WBMW, Wildfire, Oblivion, Air, Great Bear, Top Gun at PGA, G5, and the Crazy Flying Coaster. Also Raptor has midcourse brakes, but from what I've heard they're rarely used.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:23 AM
what do you mean that raptors MCBR is 'rarely used'? every day they run 3 trains its in use!

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:32 AM

Well, the brakes don't grab, he's saying, which is usually true.

A lot of times, parks use the MCBR as another trim, but sometimes, if the loading/unloading pacing dictates, they'll leave them wide open.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:50 AM
Riddlers barely grabbed when I rode on a cold morning.
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Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:55 AM
Scream at SFMM will have no mid-course breaks either.
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Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:58 AM
I-Nar, I work at Kraken, and even with running 1 train, we don't leave the brakes wide open b/c that's a safety violation on our part. The computer automatically leaves them on. If you do ride it and the MCBR doesn't come on, it's either b/c the train is empty and isn't going fast enough to trigger the speed limit in that area, or it's really cold and isn't going fast enough.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:58 AM
i think scream will have a MCBR so it can run more trains and so help capacity

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:14 PM

Rides without are MCBR.....are just plain better IMO than rides without one!

I like the feeling of *coasting* which is a large part of te reason I like *coasters* in the first place....even if it's cold out and the ride is running slow enough not to engage them, I think it just makes for a better ride. Hulk was really nice recently when it finished the course *unimpeded*, and for MY taste, that's true of almost every ride...

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:03 PM
Does Apollo's Chariot have one? I know Nitro does....

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:10 PM
yes it does
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Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:17 PM
If you are counting Raptor, than also Orochi (Raptor's clone), and dont forget Nemesis Inferno, and does anyone know about Katun, Great Bear, or any other lesser known B&M custom Inverted?
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Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:28 PM
GB doesn't, and I've also been on Vortex & TopGun PGA, both dragons, B:TR (also the namtaB version), & Iron Wolf as B&M's w/o MCBRs. The reason most of these rides don't use them is because they have no need for them, due to their length. Heck Dueling Dragons runs 3 trains to a track (one in load, one in unload, one on circuit) and gets killer capacity, even though *I think* it's the longest of the aforementioned beemers.
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