B&M Vertical Drop Coaster: USA?

I think that B&M will build a Vertical Drop coaster in the USA. I don't know where though.

What do you think?

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Sooner or later they pobably will... but nobody knows where or when... so don't ask.

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I'm just asking for anyone's opinion, that's is a good way.

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I hope so..they look awesome

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Yah, they should, but not a B&M, I really like B&M, but has anyone heard of "Shaft Of Terror" by Giovanolva (however its spelled) in South America, It goes like 80 mph and is 90 degrees down straight not 87 degrees like on B&M. I think B&M should modify the design to make it 90 degrees. There are also rumors of sfwoa tearing down its arrow looper, the double loop for a vertical dro, if they do, I hope its a giovanolva (however its spelled)!!!!!!!!!!

Nick] Webmaster]- www.amusementmania.com - *** This post was edited by onekong on 8/17/2001. ***

The reason that they dont make it 90 degrees is because they say it messes up the wheel assembly, becuase the wheels don't run on the track all the way. Maybe the up stop wheels or something like that has trouble leaving the track during the drop.

The Shaft of Terror is in South Africa not South America. I also agree that it looks way way way better then the B&M. The drop on the Giovannola is a 90* simi twisting drop, it's also themed very heavy.

No, I think its in South America, But maybe Im wrong and if giovanolva (however its spelled) can do it. Im sure B&M can!!!!!!!!!

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Shaft of Terror is in Gold Reef City, South Africa.

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onekong:i don't think there is much of a difference between 90 degrees and 87 degrees.

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Actually there is a diiference Raging Bull Girl, it 3 degrees and B&M needs to improve!!!!!!!!

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It's definitely in South Africa as I was there two months ago & took pics! :)
www.yourphotos.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=view_public_album&aid=4681&album_name=Shaft%20of%20Terror
www.yourphotos.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=view_public_album&aid=4686&album_name=Shaft%20of%20Terror%202

I have the most simple answer to your question Stealth. When B&M is asked to build a dive macine in the US, then yes, they will build one. When will this happen? How knows, it's anyones guess.

I am guessing unless B&M can find a way to make it a better layout, such as with inversions, near-vertical climbs and drops (not just drops), and, well, make them more than single element ride, that nobody will want one. It's a ride which emphisizes vertical drops, why buy it when you can get other kinds of coasters like it, plus more?
To list a few, Intamin impulse, Vekoma tilt, Arrow 4D, Vekoma GIB, Giovanola tilt, and Giovanola vertical.

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A B&M Vertical Drop coaster in the USA will happen, but not in it's current form. If you look at some of the other US coasters that have Vertical drops are more than just that. The most noteworthy is "X". The current design offered from B&M isn't all that exciting for the cost of the coaster. I would love to see the design changed to allow for loops and Zero-G rolls and all the other B&M Inversions. Maybe with Floorless trains or another type of train.
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I know this is kind of OT, but on RCT you can build a B&M dive machine with lots of drops, helices, and even a vertical loop. I made a couple of monsters! My question is, has B&M ever stated their ability to build a dive machine with more elements and loops, or is that just a wish made up by enthusiasts. I'm sure they could do it, it would just cost a lot. Right now, however, I'm thinking that Oblivion might be kind of like Superman the Escape/Tower of Terror: basically one (or in STE's case, two) of a kind forever.

*** This post was edited by saviourmachine on 8/20/2001. ***

Oblivion is a great ride indeed, but it seems like the idea could be expanded to so much more. I also question the capability of being able to have loops and more elements. So for right now, I am just hoping that a Dive Machine will come to the USA in the coming years.
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onekong said:
Actually there is a diiference Raging Bull Girl, it 3 degrees and B&M needs to improve!!!!!!!!

Actually his name is RagingBullGuy, and I think he ment that a rider couldn't feel the difference betweem 87 and 90 Degrees. Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between 87 and 90 degrees?
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the reason why B&M don't go all the way to vertical (without it coming straight from their mouths to my ear) is that a 90 degree drop is not a parabolic hill. the car needs horizontal momentum to get it over the edge of the hill and it will want to follow a parabola from then on. in order to make the riders feel more comfortable B&M design their track to conform to the parabola.

we probably won't see another vertical drop coaster for a while (tear). it hasn't been very popular and parks don't want to spend a lot of money that isn't going to draw a bunch of people. B&M need to come up with a new layout. the only problem is that in order to have the same capacity as the rest of B&M three train coasters a vertical drop coaster needs six cars. that means a track loaded with blocks.

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Think of it, if a B&M train did go down a vertical drop... They're so top-heavy they would start to wedge the wheels into the track at an angle and be a LOT of stress, I forgot what the technical term is called...
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coasterjedi said:
the reason why B&M don't go all the way to vertical (without it coming straight from their mouths to my ear) is that a 90 degree drop is not a parabolic hill. the car needs horizontal momentum to get it over the edge of the hill and it will want to follow a parabola from then on. in order to make the riders feel more comfortable B&M design their track to conform to the parabola.
we probably won't see another vertical drop coaster for a while (tear). it hasn't been very popular and parks don't want to spend a lot of money that isn't going to draw a bunch of people. B&M need to come up with a new layout. the only problem is that in order to have the same capacity as the rest of B&M three train coasters a vertical drop coaster needs six cars. that means a track loaded with blocks.
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(Please don't take this personally, it's not mean to be)
I completely agree with the first part of what you are saying. But the second part I disgree with...
There are other vertical drops, I forget the topic the are discussed under, (one about rumors)!
The one in the UK (Oblivion) was and still is very popular and it does still pull huge crowds, both watching and riding!
Yeah agreed, more elements would be nice.
A track may be loaded with blocks for six cars but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Oblivion runs 7 cars at once. 2 loading, 2 unloading, one on the drop, one at the bottom of the lift and one in the brake run. (Though it has been seen to have one on the lift, 2 loading, 2 unloading and 3 in the brake run if some fool treis to take their camera/mobile phone on).
There are multiple blocks but in such a way that the ride still goes. If ou are waiting at the bottom of the lift then you fill will apprehension watching the car infront disappear, the 4 un/loading are as all rides, and the ones in the brakes get to discuss what they just did whilst watching the other cars run and get redy to unload.
It sounds like it's dull but it works. Really well

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