B&M Inverted Layouts

Yea, Talon's does have more weightless in it, but again, if you look close, it comes to a peak in the center of the roll as opposed to B:TR, Great Bear, Raptor, which all level out. I didn't find this feeling on Medusa West, in fact I was very underwhelmed by that coaster in general (I think I looked later and it does have a flat 0-g) but Medusa East is tied with Kumba for my favorite looper. Kraken, never rode, and Hulk's launch does take out the sensation in its roll, although it too comes to a peak, not level. (Can ya tell I've put some research into this? ;) ).

While we're talkin about Talon, why does it have extra supports (and quite massive ones) on its vertical loop going out to the sides? Is the loop actually slightly inclined?

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I'm not sure about the supports on Talon's loop, but while we're looking at element shapes, you'll notice that Talon's loop is a bit thinner than most. It has a very gentle pull-in and pull-out and a bit more snap over the top. I don't know why this would require more support, but it's a theory.

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i really like that intamin hypers dont have mid course brakes, all of their coasters just have a constant intensity that would be broken if there was a hint of brakes.

nitro's mc brakes didnt bother me much because the helix before them is so great and i never lost any speed on my two rides on it. the mc brakes do allow for faster intervals on nitro though. when the crew is on fire they can pretty much send out the next train as the previous goes over the drop. but being that its six flags they rarely hit that interval.

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I've heard the "kumbathingy" called a camelback by many. This term is used when the roll is part of a hill and comes to a peak.

Camelback is also used when describing a large non-inverting hill that provides airtime.

The "zerokumbathingygeeroll" on B&M inverters was actually called a "Revolution" by its creators Werner (who did the math), Walter and Claude (who came up with the idea and got the royalties)

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I just wonder what B&M would do is a park wanted a new coaster with the elements out of the typical order? Cobra Roll, Loop, Immleman, Inline. Or does B&M have that certain basic order for a reason?

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^ Just take a look at HULK! A completely different layout and inversion order. Alpengeist and Nemesis differ as well from the order.

I guess when a park has a distinct idea about the layout, B&M would go all the way to deliver to their customers wish in order to SELL a ride. In todays situation (they don´t sell as much as they used to) they would be stupid to decline, because another manufacturer, literally down the road, would not hesitate to do anything just to make the deal.
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I'd say because of speed. Barrel rolls and corkscrews don't need nearly as much speed as loops, Immelmans and cobra rolls, as they gain altitude during the element. That's my guess. I'd like to see some of their coasters that don't follow this pattern too(Alpengeist was a start).
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