B&M Dive Machine

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auscoasterman said:

Well, you've taken most of those coasters and corresponding prices "out of context", so to speak.

I haven't ridden Oblivion, or G5 (Crazy Flying Submarine ), but I do appreciate what they do, particularly Oblivion.

Honestly, you run a park that is heavily restricted in what it can do due to strict regulations. You have a thrill market to uphold, and you have an excellent concept team working for you. You need rides that will bring in people, therefore you need rides that are one of a kind, that are utilized in such a way to make them thrilling in their own unique way.

I guarentee you that a Dive Machine wouldn't have a millionth of the ride effect that Oblvion has if it was in a parking lot at a Six Flags park.

And comparing the price of Oblivion to Coney Island Cyclone?!? That is like complaining that the bus costs $3 now days, but it used to be 5c, and should still be that today. You're talking 75 years difference, 75 long, and fluctuating years, with different economic status'.

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What's that first line supposed to mean?

Also, I wasn't talking why Oblivion was built, I'm saying why many others weren't built.

Why would if have to be a Six Flags "parking lot coaster"? Tat is a lame stereotype, there are many Six Flags parks that rank with some of the best all around theming in their country. I can say that S:ROS is a lot better placed and landscaped than Xcelerator, and not as squished up so you here someone flush the toilet next door like at Paramount Great America.

Also, I was putting it down at it's orginal cost and don't need your approval to do the that. I not complaining about that it should cost that much now. No duh, a dollar does not go as far today, but it was just an example of how much coasters used to cost.

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V² Fiend said:
(X's drop is) more vertical than oblivion's 87.5­­° drop.

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Yah, by half a degree.

NOW. On the currency issue. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

An American Dollar is worth MORE than a British Pound. Therefore Oblivion is LESS EXPENSIVE in DOLLAR TERMS.

7 Million British Pounds = 5 Million American Dollars

And Also, It actually says on RCDB that Oblivion was SEVEN MILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS.

The 10.5 Million is probably pounds.

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Those prices are meaningless because they're not adjusted for inflation.

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S00perGIR said:

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V² Fiend said:
(X's drop is) more vertical than oblivion's 87.5­­° drop.

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Yah, by half a degree.

NOW. On the currency issue. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

An American Dollar is worth MORE than a British Pound. Therefore Oblivion is LESS EXPENSIVE in DOLLAR TERMS.

7 Million British Pounds = 5 Million American Dollars

And Also, It actually says on RCDB that Oblivion was SEVEN MILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS.

The 10.5 Million is probably pounds.

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ummm....no. the British Pound is worth more than the American Dollar. Has been everytime I check.Currently, although this has nothing to do with the price of Oblivion when it was built, 7 million Pounds = 10.47 million Dollars

I would think the B&M dive machine would be a great addition to anybody's home park....I thought Oblivion was a great coaster - what's probably just as fun as riding is to watch non-riders' reactions when those huge B&M trains disappear into nothingness. (Coi ncidentally, I don't get "nervous" before many coasters, but I sure was nervous before this one...)

I think there's still something to be explored with this underutilized B&M design. For some reason, parks in the states are hesitant. Who knows why - but one thing is for sure - Oblivion and Nemesis are worth the trip(coincidentally, I was in Britain on other business, but would most certainly make a return trip to the park if given the opportunity).

Houston is correct -- the pound is worth MORE than the dollar. The current exchange rate as I type this is 1 GBP = 1.497 USD (source)

(This meshes right in line with the rough-guess calculation I use when I'm over there. When buying something in London, to get an idea what it costs to me in US dollars take the price in pounds and add another half...)

As Jeff pointed out, all those coaster prices are meaningless to compare until you adjust them all for inflation.

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oblivions track and things like that cost $7million or £10million approx

the tunnel work cost $500,000 or £2million approx.

having been on oblivion many times i can safely say that it is one of the most thrilling rides around. sure, it is a one trick pony, but what a trick! there is nothing better than hanging at a 45 degree angle for what seems like forever just looking down and this black hole that you are just about to fall into. the drop is the most amazing ever and the adrenaline rush goes unmatched by nothing, even the parks B&M inverted. a great ride that should be more popular around the world.

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Vertigo said:

Also, I was putting it down at it's orginal cost and don't need your approval to do the that. I not complaining about that it should cost that much now. No duh, a dollar does not go as far today, but it was just an example of how much coasters used to cost.

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You are completely off base. You said in an earlier post, the one with the obscenely long yet impressive list, that "you can GET many better rides for that price." To me that isn't pointing out how much coasters used to cost in the olden days, you are directly trying to state that if you wanted a clone of the Coney Island Cyclone that it's only going to cost $100,000. That poppycosh and you know it. Those prices are completely irrelevant if you don't factor in inflation. Granted you CAN get a kick butt coaster (arguably better than a Dive Machine) for far less, use any of your examples that were built over the last 5 years or so to prove that point. But without riding a Dive Machine I cannot be certain where it ranks with the ones you mentioned or if it's worth it's pricetag.

How the hack is Ghostrider $24 million?! More like 2.4 if anything! CCI Woodies are sooo Cheap!

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XFlighter said:

How the hack is Ghostrider $24 million?! More like 2.4 if anything! CCI Woodies are sooo Cheap!

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-The ride was designed with special geographic features, such as seismic constraints for the occurance of an earthquake.

-Ghostrider is built over Grand Avenue, a road, which called for a custom structure to hold the ride many corssing points.

The coaster itself was a seven million dollar purchase, but after adding all the constraints, stronger holds, and custom strucure for earthquake prevention it's no wonder that Ghostrider's price wemt that high up. Cedar Fair had spent about $35 million on two thrill rides for the park: the GhostRider wooden roller coaster and the Supreme Scream.

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