Big Dipper purchased by another party, effort to dismantle and store underway

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WKYC has confirmed that the landmark Big Dipper roller coaster that sat ready for demolition on the grounds of the former Geauga Lake amusement park has been saved, having been bought by two coaster enthusiasts, an Ohioan and a New Zealander. Kat Jones and New Zealander Harold Garmonsway had Garmonsway's payment for the Big Dipper delivered FedEx to the current owner's agent Tom Woosnam on Thursday.

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Good to see it saved!

This is really god news. i wish Kat and her crew all the luck in the world. I will be there when they need me and would hope that they would get alot of support on their project!! Thank You Kat and crew!!!!

LostKause's avatar

ffej, now that the ride has been sold, and your friend has made his money, is this considered a "Mission Accomplished" for you? I'd be proud of myself, if I were you. Do you get a commission?

Good luck to the new owners.


Case in point.

So my question is with all of the fund raising, auctions etc., where is the ACE Preservation fund? They did donate to the Conneaut Blue Streak. That was the first time that I have heard of them doing something like that. This is a good cause that shoould be supported by someone like ACE. I realize that they cannot save every coaster out there, but this one is special. Now that these two generous people have stepped up maybe Ace can step up and help find a new home for it, and some financial assistance.

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LostKause said:
ffej, now that the ride has been sold, and your friend has made his money, is this considered a "Mission Accomplished" for you? I'd be proud of myself, if I were you. Do you get a commission?

Good luck to the new owners.

I would garner that ffej had a motivated interest in selling too... haven't seen him/her post on any other subject...

Or is a "tin foil hats R Us" follower...

"please note - this post was made before 10AM on Sunday and is bound to be full of grouchy sarcasm"

Good to see some positive news regarding the coaster.

Not sure what you can expect ACE to do. They donated 25,000 to CLP and they could have donated the full 100,000 they needed. To move rebuild and retrack your looking at 2.4 million. But I'm sure regional Acers can think of a few parks that could use a coaster like this.

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xX eNeRtIa Xx, why would me pointing out that ffej has just been here for the sale of Big Dipper, and nothing else, be considered Douche-baggery? ffej doesn't even like coasters. His reason for being here has been very obvious to me ever since his first post. I call him out on that in the nicest way possible.

I could have been WAY more intense with ffej, which is what you seem to want from what you have posted in the other BD forum, but I'm really a nice guy. I want to know ffej's motive for trying to, unsuccessfully, influence the opinion on this story. I'm truly sorry that you don't approve.

Do you have an opinion on the subject of the Big Dipper roller coaster being sold, or do you want to talk about douche-bags on CoasterBuzz?


My only motivation was and is to help save this ride. I did not receive a thing from the sale. I have posted on other topics as well. Please don't tell me what I do or don't like. You do not know me. If you did, you would realize what you said was simply not true. I have posted on here for a couple years now, just not in volume. Yes I posted alot about this because I do care. I find it funny that people "know" people's motivations when they have never had a conversation with them. Travis, you and I don't seem to understand each other. How about you come on over the the oktoberfest event on the 9th and 10 of October at century village in Burton. I would like you to meet me and than you can make an opinion of me?

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MRCEagle said:
Not sure what you can expect ACE to do. They donated 25,000 to CLP and they could have donated the full 100,000 they needed.

25k? Last I knew, ACE had made 2 seperate $5k donations for a total of $10k. If ACE spent $100k, that would be a huge portion of the total preservation fund, leaving nothing for any other projects. I would say that while ACE can't totally fund any one project, they help generate awareness of the individual situations in hopes that local support will ultimately step up to help.


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LostKause's avatar

You admit that you were a contact for selling the ride. September 2, 2010 @ 11:22am

My name has been out there as a contact for the ride for a while now.

...Then at 11:53am, you mentioned, oddly, that you really were a coaster enthusiast, an a response where no one ever mentioned that you weren't.

There were and are still rough feelings between enthusiasts(which I am one) and the owner of the ride.

I've searched and searched for your post were you say that you like coasters the same as other regular people, but you like something else (like trains or dark rides?) better. That post, which I can't find, is the one that led me to that opinion of you. I really wish that I could find it, fejj.

But if you say you like coasters, and you purpose here is to talk about coasters, and not to sell the BD, then I'll take your word on it. Sorry if I came off so strong.

and here is the smilie face... :)


Travis, I am an enthusiast. I like more of the classic parks.I have had platinum passes for the last 3 years with my family of 5, as well as cedar point and geauga lake passes on and off for years. I actually didn't know about amusement park forums until the geauga lake auction where I met a person who told me about them and I got involved. ( I didn't even realize I was an enthusiast) I Do love coasters. I did get involved in helping the big dipper find a new home because I was a enthusiast that took the time to ask questions and offer my help. that is all. I have been a contact no doubt about it, however I never received nothing but the ability to help. The offer still stands for you to come out and talk with me, it is hard to tell one's motivations on this computer thing. : )

Jerry's avatar

I wouldn't consider since the Fall of 2007 a long time... but none the less...

Oh wait fellow coaster conspirators.... that was about the time Big D got sold wasn't it?

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Don't flatter yourself. I don't know enough about you to dislike you, let alone care about you.


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Well Jerry, if you read my post, I just learned of the these websites at the auction of geauga lake. So I guess I wouldn't have made any posts before that huh? I believed I had said that I have posted for a couple years. Jerry please read the posts made before you call someone out. How about you come out to Oktoberfest and meet me Jerry? Mabe you and I could understand each other as well.You don't know me, but I will give you the chance.

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Jeff, Am I correct in saying that I have posted before in other topics besides Geauga lake ones ?

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I checked your previous post by easily clicking your name above you post and then clicking the link that says "post" next to how many posts you have made. And the answer is yes, you have posted in a few other threads, besides the ones about GL.

I seriously like the way you invite other CoasterBuzzers to meet with you personally. It's a nice gesture. :)


I don't have any problems with anybody. Thanks Travis. I really think most is a misunderstanding.

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