Best Run 6 Flags?

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Mamoosh said:
And Quake just irks me. It taunts me with its flawless SBNO record.

How odd...I've ridden Quake on each of my 8 visits to SFKK since 2000.

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You have got to be the luckiest man on earth. I have yet to see that ride in operation on all my visits.

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Mamoosh said:

How odd...I've ridden Quake on each of my 8 visits to SFKK since 2000.

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My Miraculous Healing Powers only work on coasters. Healing SFGAM's Deja Vu took too much outta me to handle SV the next day, but the I had plenty of juice for SFWOA's S:UE the day after. Why, I ask you, would I have wasted that on their DOA Top Spin?

Besides--had I healed Quake, there was no way I coulda brought LoCoSuMo back online for coaster #100 later that day. I'm just one man. Dang.

-'Playa

You weren't missing much,if anything by not being able to ride SFA's oak grove express.

Even during FF when it's open to the public as midnight express it's still not worth the wait in line & if you ask me they'd be better off just getting rid of it which could free up some room for new additions.

1. Six Flags Great Escape. They don't have the best coasters, but they have phenominal staff.

2. Six Flags Darien Lake. I've seen several people dis this park, but I've never had a problem here. IMO, it is very well-run.

The worst has to be Six Flags La Ronde in downtown Montreal. It's filthy and the staff do nothing to curb littering, line-jumping, and smoking in queues. *** Edited 2/1/2005 3:59:00 AM UTC by greatwhitenorth***

My problem at Darien Lake was how horrible the ride ops were, and that they (on a busy saturday in the middle of summer) opened the park with 1-train operation on SROS, and an hour after opening, its like "oh s***, people are coming again!" and they took 35 minutes to transfer the second train on. Rediculous.

Let's see...I've been to these Six Flags...

SFOG
SFA
SFWOA
SFGAdv
SFStL
SFAW
SFOT
SFFT
SFGAm

I would say the best out of all of them is SFOT. It's the best run one IMHO...the rides are run well, the staff is pretty friendly, and the food is actually pretty good! SFAW showed a lot of improvement when I visited last year. I heard a lot of bad things about it, but the employees were really nice and they had a smooth SLC (believe it or not!).

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CoastaPlaya said:..and Quake just irks me. It taunts me with its flawless SBNO record.

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You know I have only been to the park once and it was open when I was there. Interesting ride, but not "all that" by any means.

All I care about with theme parks is if they enough coasters to last me a good part of a day. I don't talk to staff, I don't eat the food and I don't go on to many flat rides. I can only spend about a half a day at a park like Valeyfair. If a park has less that 7-8 coasters I don't usally go. As far as being the best six flags park I like SFGAm because of the coaster selection and the fact that they have a lot of firsts. First B&M, first B&M inverted, first B&M hyper, first 7 looper. That tells me that this park will be a good park and still become a great park.

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Mamoosh said:

How odd...I've ridden Quake on each of my 8 visits to SFKK since 2000.

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What suprises me is not the fact that is was open all 8 times, but that you *rode* it all 8 times. I wouldnt ride that POS again. It was a largely uninteresting experience that had more headbanging that T2. Crap...Crap I say!

lata, jeremy

--in need of a new sig

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cyber_demon said:
... I like SFGAm because of the coaster selection and the fact that they have a lot of firsts. First B&M, first B&M inverted, first B&M hyper, first 7 looper...

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Great Adventure's GASM was the first 7-looper in the country (the one in France may have come earlier, I can't find actual dates, just years), and Apollo's Chariot was the first B&M Mega.

Though you could have added first B&M Stand-up (first B&M period)

Interesting how the SFGAdv and SFNE home park crowd is split pretty close down the middle. GAdv is my home park, but I thought SFNE was better run the past two years I've been there. Fewer closed rides numerically when I've gone, and last year, the coasters ran a lot more smoothly than Gadv despite the fact that that was the park that the accident happened at, but it just may be because most of the coasters are fast enough to use only one train at a time vs courses where there are multiple blocks and i'm used to seeing trains being dispatched regularly instead of once every 5-10 minutes.

SFNE over SFGAdv IMHO.

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dexter said:

So I agree that it is a parks job to make sure that guests have such a great time that they will want to come back, because that's how they will make money in the long run.

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It's their job to do whatever the stock holders dictate and accept. Not what Roller Coaster enthusiast think they should do.

I for one am tired of the SF bashing. Ok.. so they run it like crap, and their just aweful places. Do me a favor. Dont go. You will make my waiting in line shorter. *** Edited 2/1/2005 6:22:21 PM UTC by Markieb***

That was incredibly insightful. Thank you.

Markieb: the stock price keeps going down. That's because more people want to sell than want to buy. Translation? More investors think they are doing wrong than think they are doing right. So, while you're trivially correct (management's job is to increase shareholder value and thereby please the stockholders) it is also easy to see that management has failed in that job.

If you don't like the stock price metric, feel free to pick any other objective metric of performance---attendance, revenue, EBITDA, net profit---and you'll find the story is the same. Each successive year gets worse rather than better. Each year they seem to have hit bottom, they find a lower level of performance.

Edit: as for your sage advice:

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Do me a favor, don't go

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It would appear that potential guests are following it in droves. *** Edited 2/1/2005 7:06:00 PM UTC by Brian Noble***

I'll bite just for fun - I've only been to 4, but the best one was SFMW. That's still by no means a great thing, there were still many rides down I wished I could have gotten on, but that was about the only downfall. Like Homey, I had great luck with SFMM, was there for at least parts of 4 of my 7 days in California, and got on X 4 times, Deja Vu twice, and almost every other non-kiddie coaster in the park. But, the food was very overpriced, and the place just seemed stale. SFGAdv, I love the coaster lineup, but the closures are frustrating, as well as the Sound Death Midway where rap blares from every game at the same time at full volume until all you can hear is a sound that could drive anyone insane. SFWoA was a p.o.s. SFO was semi-ok, SFWoA was horrid. So, yea, that's my 2 cents. I'll probably get to see SFKK this summer, so I guess I should prepare for the worst!

Brian Noble,

I am not a ding dong! I understand the big picture.

It just cracks me up to see people says they gotta do...... They don't have to do didley squat. People will sell stock, the board will kick them out, or whatever happens, but no..... they do not have to change a thing if they dont want too.

Customer service is not there bag, then so be it.

Jeff ,

I assume your being saracstic. That's ok, I was too.

The SF's thing is just getting to me now.

Really after 3-4 years it fairly evident they probably won't ever get it right, they will crash, then sell.

I say, ok let them crash, they dont get it. In the mean time the people that find it so aweful should stop going. That part I was serious about.

I dont get why if it is so bad, are these people going over and over, and notice a lot of the bashers have been to many many parks. That I really dont get?

If it is so bad.. why would you keep going to all of their parks and supporting them?

It just doesnt add up for me.

*** Edited 2/1/2005 8:00:35 PM UTC by Markieb***

Because many of the "bashers" still love to go to theme parks, still love to ride roller coasters...no matter how crappy the ride staff may be, no matter how bad the food might be...if their favorite coasters/flat rides/water rides are running and running well, they'll go to ride it!

I don't get it.

Were you a steelworker on Goliath or Deja Vu?
Did you go to grade school with Mr. Six?
Did Bugs Bunny rescue you and your family from a burning house?

Cuz if not, why are your panties in such a twist about it?

People will say SF sucks just like they say Fords suck or the Patriots suck. Why? Cuz for some folks they just DO. So is life.

-CO

Okay,

Well I haven't been to that many Six Flags but ranked in order from best to worst

SFGAM

SFNE

SFWOA

SFKK

SFGadv

SFMM

The last time I was at Magic(less) Mountain - I've never wanted so desperately to end my day early. SFGadv is very close to that for me as well.

I think that Great America has held up so well because of the wonderful infrastructure that Marriot's installed and the managements attempt at upkeeping it.

I am anxious to go to the Six Flags Trifecta (OG, OT, & OStl) as I've heard wonderful things about all three, and I can't believe that I actually have a place to rank SFKK that's not at the very bottom.

Sigh,

Jim 'jimvid' McDonnell

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RamblinWreck said:
Great Adventure's GASM was the first 7-looper in the country (the one in France may have come earlier, I can't find actual dates, just years), and Apollo's Chariot was the first B&M Mega.

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Uh, no. SFGAm's Shockwave opened a full year before both GASM and Goudrix. Although Apollo's Chariot opened a little over a month before Raging Bull, they were both built the same year.

-Nate