Berenstein Bear Land or Snoopy Land

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:32 PM
Lets see .... Whats the bears name anyway? I know Snoopy, Charlie, Lucy, Linus, Woodstock.....

Game, Match, Point. The Bears lose.

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Oh my freekin' head!
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Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:37 PM
What's the point of comparing the two? Cedar Fair has both, and no one is really complaining.

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Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
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Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:39 PM
Randy said:

What's the point of comparing the two? Cedar Fair has both, and no one is really complaining.


Only parks with bears left is Valleyfair. Want to take bets on how much longer they will have them? I give it a year before we see "Snoopy" influence at the park and absence of some bears.

-D

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Thursday, January 11, 2001 1:17 AM

Chitown said:
"I like the Peanuts characters, but I am sorry, that animation just doesnt fit an amusement park.
Knotts Berry Farm has had Camp Snoopy for almost 20 years and I love it. The charaters fit the park wonderfully. FYI- CF is building the Camp Snoopy's because (i belive) they got the rights to do so when they aquired Knotts Berry Farm.


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Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:57 AM
Dustijn,

I guarantee they keep them. There isn't any point to take it out. The area is very well visited and they have recently added more stuff to it. I could see Valleyfair adding another kid's section (Berenstein's is the only one in the park right now) since they took out their second kiddie area with the construction of Power Tower.

But I don't fathom them taking Berenstein Bears out anytime soon. And believe it or not the books are fairly popular in this area, [Ya see the way it works is in the Upper Midwest (Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin) kids tend to read books more then the rest of the nation so the bears are recognizable.]

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Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:46 AM
Ok we won't go into a "who is better than who" war, but look at this from a business stand point.
Why would you pay for the rights to use the bears, when you have the exclusive rights to use Peanuts in the United States? We have already hashed out who is the more recognizable. From a business stand point I just don't see the bears there much longer. ALSO the bears and peanuts can not co-exist. That's why they were dropped at the last three parks to add Camp Snoopy. Something to do with the company that granted the rights to CF:LP to use Peanuts.

-Dustijn


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Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:50 AM
Dustijn's right... you've got a license, why continue to pay for another, when the first is arguable more marketable? Since Snoopy came to Cedar Point everything has the dog on it. Clearly one has more merchandise to sell.

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Jeff
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:03 PM
Why spend a ton of money on duplicate rides that are 15 min away from each other?

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Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:13 PM
I thought we were talking about mascots... not rides.

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Jeff
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:31 PM
I personally miss the bears at Cedar Point, because I grew up reading those books when I was a kid. They were my absolute favorite, because I liked it when father bear always screwed things up and his son always came to the rescue. However, Peanuts makes a lot more sense for marketing (as was mentioned by others). Plus, I love Peanuts just as much (or maybe more) than I love Bernstein Bears.
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:40 PM
I thought we were talking about rides. Heck I could care less about which mascot they used. I thought this whole announcement dealt with buying a Camp Bus and Air Mail and all that good jazz. My bad.

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Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
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Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:40 PM

I just beleive that from a theme standpoint Berenstein Bears mesh more with the down on the country theme of the City Fair parks more than the Peanuts do. I love the Peanuts but when talking about what goes well with a park i think that Disney needs Mickey,Universal needs Jaws,Peanut Butter needs Jelly and Cedar Point needs the Bears
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Sex or riding a Coaster?

Im going with the Coaster!!!!
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Friday, January 12, 2001 9:13 AM

Cedar point should incorporate the both.There's room for both in the park
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Sex or riding a Coaster?

Im going with the Coaster!!!!
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Friday, January 12, 2001 9:25 AM
That's not how you market a licensed property. You can't create brand recognition with two separate non-related sets of characters targeted toward the same demo.

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Jeff
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Friday, January 12, 2001 9:28 AM
Randy wrote:


I thought we were talking about rides. Heck I could care less about which mascot they used. I thought this whole announcement dealt with buying a Camp Bus and Air Mail and all that good jazz. My bad.


Well I'd imagine that they will "retheme" the rides in and around BBC sort of like what they are doing at WOF. They'll also add a Camp Bus and a Snoopy Bounce.

Coastergasm wrote:

I just beleive that from a theme standpoint Berenstein Bears mesh more with the down on the country theme of the City Fair parks more than the Peanuts do.


What theme? There are only two parks in the CF:LP that have themes, and even those seem to be fading away.


Cedar point should incorporate the both.There's room for both in the park


As I've said before the people that own the rights to Peanuts (Standard Syndicated or something like that) will not allow Peanuts and the Bears to co-exist. That's why they are not co-existing.



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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:56 PM

Here due to Mandela Effect. Look at all the lovely Berenstein bears. Google it name has changed to berenstain. Mandella effect. Cern, quantum computing or space time ripples?

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:06 PM

The Peanuts are a worn-out, uncreative franchise. Most of the characters basically look the same. IMO the Hanna-Barbera characters at the Taft Parks were the best as they had the most variety. But they lost their relevance as they lost their appearance on TV.

The Nickelodeon characters in the parks when they purchased the Taft parks had both relevance and variety. Moving to Peanuts was purely a financial, cost cutting (and quality-cutting) move.

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:25 PM

Can this thread have the title changed to the correct spelling?

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:42 PM

It's been spelled that way for 16 years and you want to change it now?

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:57 PM

Peanuts are not creative? And worn out? Seems to me they made a really good movie recently. Not only that, I don't see any major networks playing any Berenstein Bears episodes yearly like they do Peanuts.

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