Subsequent visits haven't changed that opinion. I'm with Gonch on this (surprise surprise) that I just don't get it - at all. People keep mentioning power and speed through the trees. I felt that the biggest thing Beast lacks is power! It drops off that first lift hill ... then just takes a leisurely stroll through the woods at a (seemingly) painfully slow speed, followed by another slow lift hill into a helix that lasts longer than it should. There's no power until the laterals in the helix, and those last so long that they start to get annoying. The Beast did not excite me at all - it just left me wishing I had spent my time in line for Vortex, or FoF, or Racer even!
If the Beast was the only coaster in the park in the late 1970s, it's an amazing coaster. But, these days, it's antiquated, and I firmly believe that it's high ranking is purely due to nostalgia.
It wasn't until 97 or so when I started going out and riding coasters at other parks. Sure I had been to CP a few times, Lesourdsville, Disney and a few others. I had not yet realized what makes a good coaster to me.
I was young, 14 when I first tackled the Beast. Front seat, Dark and the only time I've ridden it without trims. Yes the shed wasn't even done. It BLEW ME AWAY at that age as Screehin Eagle to me was just a hilly coaster at the time. I loved the speed and tunnels and I've always thought at the bottom of those two drops it feels like being shot out of a cannon up front. I mean you don't really feel the acceleration till your at the bottom of those drops.
Now that I have been on 75 wooden coasters and have ridden beast several thousand times. Beast is still a good coaster albeit much rougher than it used to be. I think the trains are wore out causing them to bounce much more than I remember it ever doing. I have found many coasters that I consider outrank it and some outrank it by a longshot to me but this might be because I know every square inch of the ride, I can close my eyes and know exactly where we are and what happens next.
People say they like the out of control feeling of beast and I agree it does have that factor expecially in the helix but I gotta tell you many coasters beat it in that catagory to me. Legend, Raven and Boss are totally off the hook when it comes to fast furious changes of direction and altitute.
I can tell you this, The ride you get now is better than the rides you got for the last 20 years (Unless they turned the trims down. The trains seem to keep momentum better in the mid section. With the skids the middle section of the ride was BORING as it took until the second curve after the middle tunnels to get any real speed back. Now Ive been getting latterals comming off the midcourse :)
No, it's not in my top 20. It doesn't have a ton of elements but what it does do, it does well.
Chuck, who likes Beast but thinks it was much better when it had buzzbars and no highbacks :)
And thanks to everyone who has given their opinions thus far. I think my less-than-stellar opinion of Beast can be attributed to two possibilites:
1] I've just been unlucky and have not received the great rides other have, or
2] It's just not the kind of coaster experience I prefer and my opinion wouldn't change no matter what.
Either way I've enjoyed the discussion.
So if what Jeff is saying is true, I'm really looking forward to heading back to PKI in the future. I found that Beast had unrelenting power and speed--the dive into the final helix is one of the most unbelievable moments I've experienced on any coaster. I was riding solo in the front seat, and I remember muttering something like 'Oh my God' or 'holy sh**' to myself while bracing for the turn as the train kept picking up speed. We just seemed to be going way too fast to navigate that turn.
And that helix is indeed rough (as is the rest of the coaster), but not uncomfortably so. I felt its roughness was fitting, considering the coaster's name and reputation. The power was just impressive.
The feeling I had when I walked down the exit ramp after my first ride has only been duplicated on a handful of other coasters. That joy, elation, and complete fulfillment is why the Beast remains one of my all-time favorite coasters.
Sorry...... for those who love it, but I am one of those who do not.
As "Chasing Red Riding Hood:The Ride" at night it is the best dark-ride in the park.
Now, I'm a little more *experienced* (OK, a lot more), but I still find it amazing that WAY back then a coaster would be built that spends SO much time, space, and money doing a TON of *meandering* through the woods, and then basically lets all hell break loose at the very end. If the coaster utilized more BANKED turns and less BRAKING, the first half could be SO much better....but even as is, the second half of the ride is GOOD, really good....IMO, YMMV, yadda yadda.
Having only ridden beast in 2000 and 2001, I can only say that the helix felt like how I envision a true 'runaway mine train'. I like how the shallow slope just keeps picking up speed more and more. But other than that, the ride is forgettable. Not *bad*, just not all that entertaining. But the helix is good enough for re-rides.
All in all though, I'd rather ride Son of Beast instead! :)
--who does NOT smoke crack
Like I said, the changes were entirely positive as far as I'm concerned.
What’s funny is it took riding the Legend to appreciate the Beast. I wasn’t a lateral fan at all until I rode Legend. Legend does not let up at all and offers some nice spots of air so in my book, the Beast does not come close with it’s lackluster spots. Still, the Beast is a fun ride and with it’s history I can see why it is a favorite.
Personally, I like the shaking in the helix. I really can't compare it to anything else. I really don't think it is painful, and any pain is the good kind of pain. I'll take a little shaking to getting my legs bruised by son of beast in the same day, and there was no comparison. It is a pretty unique ride and just something about going out in the woods at night has its charm.
"try driving in the woods at night with the lights off going about 70 mph"
Dude, that's a pastime here in Central PA... ;)
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