Batman and Robin: The Chiller

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 5:57 PM

J7G3 said:
Let's hope so. Donate the wood to people who need it this winder, get moola for any steel, sell the trains and other mech hardware. Leave in mosta the footers and then have GCI come in a build a REAL rollercoaster!

Idea: A
Execution: D+


(but don't worry: apparently they give a lot fewer D+'s than D-'s... it's not a grade they like to give out, I'll tell ya that right now) *** Edited 9/5/2007 9:59:50 PM UTC by BBSpeed26***


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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:17 PM
Mack spinners are fun until they have lines, but this might mean better things for SFGA, because without the maintance problem maybe the park can focus on other things, like keeping El Toro, SUF, and KK open more, without having to spend the money.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:26 PM
It would be nice for something with capacity to go in there, to help eat up some of the lines. SFGadv is a busy place, you know.
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:35 PM
So let's say they really are "gutting the station". What if they were replacing the control system and/or magnets on the ride? Wouldn't they have to remove all the existing components to get all the new components in? If this was happening, wouldn't it look to the average "spy" that the park was "gutting the station" to tear out the ride?

I'm calling really poor speculation on this one.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:55 PM
my magic eight ball says its gone!
big things for 2008-2010!
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:57 PM
I do beleive that it is gone. I just hope they arent satupid and have something already planned for the big empty space that taking down the ride will leave.

IF they dont have plans for the space i vote to keep chiller standing (even if it doesnt work)until they can fill the space.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:08 PM
^ Why? All a SBNO coaster with the inherent "coolness" of Chiller will do is alienate GP folks who already don't feel that the park has that steller of a reputation.

What would you rather hear from Jim, Bob, Joe and Sally walking through the park:

"Hey, let's ride that cool looking coaster! Oh wait we can't because this park never fixes ANYTHING!"

or

"This is some nice landscaping, let's go get some (very expensive) food, sit on that bench and have some lunch"

I'd go for #2 myself ... you?


Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:15 PM

Impulse-ive said:
^ Why? All a SBNO coaster with the inherent "coolness" of Chiller will do is alienate GP folks who already don't feel that the park has that steller of a reputation.

What would you rather hear from Jim, Bob, Joe and Sally walking through the park:

"Hey, let's ride that cool looking coaster! Oh wait we can't because this park never fixes ANYTHING!"

or

"This is some nice landscaping, let's go get some (very expensive) food, sit on that bench and have some lunch"

I'd go for #2 myself ... you?


Yes but A big empty space with just a fence around it would look even worse then a non operating coaster sitting there. They already have a big empty space where freefall used to be and an empty arena all in the same section. So taking down chiller and leaving a big empty space with a fence around it would make that section look horrible. *** Edited 9/5/2007 11:15:41 PM UTC by majortom1981***

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:19 PM
Or since they already have a wide open space where Freefall used to be (damn, guess I won't be riding that great little ride anymore, will I?), take out Chiller and either install a large new ride for next year in the as you put it "big empty space" or better yet, use all that space and start up an amazing show a-la the Cirque de Soleil show at SFoT this year. All they need is a tent and some performers ... got to be less expensive than a new ride, new infrastructure, new landscaping, construction workers, ride ops, maintenance folks and budget ... get the picture? There's ALWAYS a better use for a space than an SBNO coaster when there is no intention of reopening it, especially when it's quite literally in the middle of the park. At least Flashback's basically on the perimeter of SFMM.
Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:02 PM

Impulse-ive said:
Or since they already have a wide open space where Freefall used to be (damn, guess I won't be riding that great little ride anymore, will I?), take out Chiller and either install a large new ride for next year in the as you put it "big empty space" or better yet, use all that space and start up an amazing show a-la the Cirque de Soleil show at SFoT this year. All they need is a tent and some performers ... got to be less expensive than a new ride, new infrastructure, new landscaping, construction workers, ride ops, maintenance folks and budget ... get the picture? There's ALWAYS a better use for a space than an SBNO coaster when there is no intention of reopening it, especially when it's quite literally in the middle of the park. At least Flashback's basically on the perimeter of SFMM.

All i am stating is they should wait to take down the rest of the chiller until they come up with a replacement. thats all that i am saying. if they have no plans for the space yet then why take down the coaster and leave empty space? The chiller takes up a lot of spacer and unless the put grass to make the space look better it would make the park look worse.

Basically i am stating unless a ride is planned to replace the chiller or a complete redo of that whole section (wich needs it badly) they shpould keep the chiller structure there.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:19 PM
Im pretty sure that if they are looking at removing the ride they have or are already considering many things rides or attractions to replace it. Or maybe not, maybe they will give it a season or two before a decision is made on what will replace it. Time will tell.
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:26 PM

Impulse-ive said:
There's ALWAYS a better use for a space than an SBNO coaster when there is no intention of reopening it, especially when it's quite literally in the middle of the park.

Actually Chiller's not quite in the middle of the park...it's more in one of the corners of the park...it's in the middle of a big section of the park though...I'm imagining that's what you're going for...


Haha no I'm not giving Patrick the finger

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:53 PM
matt.'s avatar I think the "empty spaces are bad" argument is a little beside the point, if only because parks are pretty good at making empty spaces pretty unobvious. Even without a brand new attraction or facility to take Chiller's place, an open lot can easily be obscured with a little bit of fencing and landscaping. It doesn't take much.

Just curious, what was in that spot before Chiller?

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 9:05 PM
Looping Shuttle and G-force excellarator.
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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 11:32 PM

majortom1981 said:

All i am stating is they should wait to take down the rest of the chiller until they come up with a replacement. thats all that i am saying. if they have no plans for the space yet then why take down the coaster and leave empty space? The chiller takes up a lot of spacer and unless the put grass to make the space look better it would make the park look worse.

Basically i am stating unless a ride is planned to replace the chiller or a complete redo of that whole section (wich needs it badly) they shpould keep the chiller structure there.


Or put up a sign in its place which reads:

"Y'all ready for some serious sidewinding?!" ;)

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 11:25 AM
OhioStater's avatar

All i am stating is they should wait to take down the rest of the chiller until they come up with a replacement. thats all that i am saying.

So, your argument is that a broken ride has a better "feel" to it than a space with no ride?

This is a long, long, long overdue removal.

The folks at Cedar Point...

*cough cough* Mean Streak *cough cough*

should take note.

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 12:03 PM
Take it down and replace it with a Gerstlauer spinner. I've seen the thing operate twice over a ten-year period so I'd say it's time for it to go.
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Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:16 PM

Sugart said:
Looping Shuttle and G-force excellarator.

I think there was a tiny kids area around it too. At least a mini ferris wheel for kids.

It seems like it was just a few short years ago that everyone was packed on that side of the park (B:TR, the stunt show, whatever was in the Showcase, the Waterworks) and it was fairly dead elsewhere except for Medusa.

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 2:18 PM

Sugart said:
Looping Shuttle and G-force excellarator.

Wasn't the small kids area around there too? At least the kids ferris wheel?

Wasn't that long ago that side of the park was packed with Batman, the stunt show, the Water Works, and whatever was in the Showcase and everwhere else was dead.

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:33 PM
With only Nitro and Batman, that side of the park is definitely the weaker of the two, although I happen to like the atmosphere a bit more. The other side of the park has Medusa, El Toro, Kindga Ka and Superman (sort of), so that's clearly where more people are going to be spending their time unless their Nitro fiends like I am.
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