Awesome CGA News

As the resident CGA expert (aka the only one that cares about this park) there was some really good news at this week's city council meeting in Santa Clara. Cedar Fair was basically presenting their vision of the park over the next few years, in the form of Cedar Fair's "Master Plan for Future Development", in order to get rezoning of the land approved for the future developments. Here are the highlights that Cedar Fair laid out:

*Year round operations

*Adding a large retail/entertainment hub at the front of the park, and adding a separate entrance to go straight to the water park

*Hyper steel roller coaster (approx. 225 ft)

*Launched steel roller coaster (approx. 225 ft)

*Steel looping coaster (90 ft)... this is the conversion of Vortex to floorless which is already happening for next season

*New wooden coaster (most likely future plans to tear down Grizzly and replace it) (EDIT actually people are thinking now they are just referring to the CGI woodie that was built a few years ago)

*New mini kids coasters, both steel and wood

*Expanded water park, including a water coaster and mat racer in the plans

The thing is this shouldn't be considered a bullet point list of what they will be adding, but it seems these are all part of their "vision" that they're trying to get the city to rezone the lands for. They did include things that have already happened, like the transformation of the 4D theater (Mass Effect Experience), and Winterfest (which extended the park operations through after Xmas this year).

I have images of the Master Plan packet that I can post if anyone would like to read it.

In other news, the Winterfest event was freaking awesome and a huge success. Cedair Fair for the win!

--Josh--

GooDFeLLoW said:

*New wooden coaster (most likely future plans to tear down Grizzly and replace it) (EDIT actually people are thinking now they are just referring to the CGI woodie that was built a few years ago)

You mean this CGI woodie?:

Sorry, I had to. Sounds like good news though. I haven't been to that park since Stealth was still there, but I always felt it was lacking and I've never really felt the need to go back. I'd like to see CF improve it and make it a park worth travelling to.

Hahaaaa yeah I finally realized some of the items they listed as if they were in the future were actually in the past. And yeah the park is really sad, but it's definitely not depressing like it used to be, and that's saying something!

The thing that I found interesting is the fact that there's an intamin impulse in the works. Would that be a new one, which would be the return of Intamin to the states, or a relocated one, and if so, from where?

Oh, yes.... and there are fans at PointBuzz who are all up in arms because they're certain, due to an image and a description in the report, that Wicked Twister is about to be relocated to California!.... Oh Noes!

I read that, and I doubt it. It says that it could twist, not that it does.

Go Intamin said:

The thing that I found interesting is the fact that there's an intamin impulse in the works. Would that be a new one, which would be the return of Intamin to the states, or a relocated one, and if so, from where?

All I know is that if your park gets something Dorney already had.... not a good sign.

Didn't Cedar Fair try to sell this park a few years ago?

Yeah that was part of the holdup for Levi's Stadium being built for the 49ers.

All I know is that if your park gets something Dorney already had.... not a good sign.

OK the park just went back to being depressing ahahaha.

Something to file in the unproven rumors section... a maintenance guy was telling us they're not reopening Firefall again next season (the Huss Topspin that had added water and fire effects). It had lots of downtime the last 2 season and probably was costing too much for maintenance. Could be part of a plan to free up space in area.

Oh I forgot to say... the last time I was there for Winterfest, while checking out the live reindeers, I overheard an argument between 2 hardcore enthusiasts (apparently)... they were getting heated arguing over whether Patriot will count as a new credit or not when it opens hahaha typical

Much like a chance chaos, Cedar Fair seems to be getting rid of their top spins.

I will say it always seemed weird that the Paramount parks didn't have hypers in them. When Cedar Fair bought the parks, the obvious cash printing press was to install hyper/gigas (or both) in all the Paramount Parks. For whatever reason, CGA missed that bus and I'd be surprised if Cedar Fair doesn't correct that in the near future, given that it seems like the park is here to stay.

CGA is located underneath the flight path of the nearby San Jose Airport, which is why it has height limitations. It looks like it takes a lot of work to get permits, waivers, etc.

This County document has lots of info on the subject and says it was approved in Sept: http://sccgov.iqm2.com/citizens/Detail_LegiFile.aspx?MeetingID=7038&ID=83294

Apparently they can built up to 250 feet Above Ground Level, (AGL) and the plans call for a 245 ft coaster and a 230 ft Windseeker, according to one of the dowloads on that page.

CGA's Grizzly will not be missed by me at all if it goes.

RCMAC said:

Oh, yes.... and there are fans at PointBuzz who are all up in arms because they're certain, due to an image and a description in the report, that Wicked Twister is about to be relocated to California!.... Oh Noes!

I happen to be one of those in the discussion. I haven't read anyone say they were certain at all, but I certainly don't think it's as far fetched as some might initially think. I'll sum up briefly by saying if you asked me to name the next 3 rides to leave, I would never think of Wicked Twister. That said, it sits next to the hideous eyesore of a stadium and the equally deplorable kiddie kingdom. If Wicked Twister did happen to jump ship, that leaves a pretty sizable chunk of land for re-imagining, and I don't think many would argue that the stadium and Kiddie Kingdom both could use a major face-lift. If you asked me to name one "thing" at Cedar Point that will not be there in the next 5 years, that stadium is at or near the top of that list.

I've also been pretty blatant to argue that the whole idea should be taken with a big grain of salt and seen as part of a plan that has a lot of wiggle room built into it.

The whole thread has been a nice distraction and a much more interesting angle of discussion to get away from the nauseating 2017/2018 debate of the 2018 RMC coming to the Point. ;)

No, nobody has said they are certain, and that was why I mentioned it. The O.P. has four posts to his credit and titled it "next on the chopping block". Then it was on from there.

And if it was actual news it would seem like a nice distraction. I just get impatient with endless discussion around items that are made up, or in this case, possibly misconstrued. That conversation has evolved into a discussion about what should be done with Cedar Point, but why?

I guess one of the inherent problems with any site that is park-specific with so many die-hard participants is in the end there's only so much to talk about. So it just goes over and over.

Yeah, I know,... quit reading, right?

What am I supposed to do for entertainment during the off season, if I'm not having endless arguments about the park? :-)

I read that CGA just removed Firefall (the old Geauga Lake Texas Twister... which was the first permanent-mount Top Spin in the US)

Yup it's official about Firefall... cranes were seen deconstructing it last week; siiiiggghhh. Nobody saw it get demolished, so still unknown if it's getting moved or put in the junk pile. It's been real Huss Topspin!

If no one is sure, and the park hasn't said anything yet, is it still official?