Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:50 AM
Still doesn't change the fact that the park has virtually nothing to do. 22 so-called "attractions" including a couple of movies doesn't really work in today's theme park world, especially when you have something as large as Disneyland right next door. The coaster and Soarin Over California are really the only good things at the park. Wake up Disney, give us the good stuff, and fast. Innovate, don't imitate.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:29 AM
I'm telling you! A car chase through the hilly streets of San Francisco using the test track technology would be excellent!
Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
Maybe if they just placed hookers on the corners of the Hollywood Backlot it would help? LOL!
Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:27 AM
i've never been but i'd like to go. give the park some time it will prolly improve over the years. disney when it opened wasn't like it is today. give it time
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Best Woodie: The Beast @ PKI
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Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:45 AM
This is just a prime example of spin control. Funny, how Disney forgot to mention that the reason their faultering park doubled its attendance is due to the nearly 100K FREE comp tickets it has issued to at least put some bodies on the streets.
Just face facts Disney: you screwed up.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:02 AM
Doggea#1--nice comments! NOT! If you want to bash them you don't have to say it the way you did. While everyone is entitled to their opinions, yours is a little overboard. I'd like to know what makes it so bad for you, because you seem to think that money should not be an object for Disney. As with any other corporation, Disney does not have bottomless pockets and they must start to recoup some of the initial expenditure at some point. Disneyland originally opened with the same # of attractions, yet nobody seems to bash that park. Give it time and if you still aren't happy, then perhaps you should just remember that Disney is not, and never will be, a thrill seekers paradise and perhaps your bashing is better left for SF, Cedar Fair, and the likes.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:07 AM
What does LOL mean? Almost everyone puts that in his or her message.
By the way, give the California Adventure some time. With the addition of Millionaire and Tower of Terror, and some much needed discounted prices, I think it'll do OK.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:16 AM
NOOO!!!! REALLY! Just joking! Well no kidding that "their" attendance has gone up since the park is in California.
SFGAm Trip - July 13-17, 2001
Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:21 AM
LOL means laugh out loud.
By the way Disney can spend as much money as they like because they make it back and then some on their other projects such as movies and outrageously priced hotels and resorts. Also, they park will become much better with age as do all parks. Disney realized that they didn't make the perfect park, so they are findeing ways to fix it. If you don't like the way that they run things fine, but don't start bashing then like there is no tommarow. And by the way Doggea#1, that comment was totally uncalled for. I'm sure that you could fine other much less discriminating words to describe what you felt you must get across.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:10 AM
As usual, half the messages were deleted so it's kinda fuzzy what you're talking about.
Anyway, MGM didn't have a lot to do when it opened, but has improved. Animal Kingdom is also still a little bit lacking. It takes a lot to build a park from scratch, I have no doubt Disney intends to add more attractions. Perhaps they should charge less for the ticket than they do Disneyland, that's really what I'd fault them for.
Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:13 PM
SFG_Maniac-- I might be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but Disney runs all their operations as separate businesses. IE: The hotels are self supporting of each other and do not share their profits with other arms of the corporation. So if they are making money in one area, that doesn't mean that it goes directly to the theme parks. Shops, hotels, parks, movies, entertainment areas are all somewhat independent of each other under the corporate umbrella. Do you think that if ABC had a good season with great ratings that that means Disney should put those profits into DCA or any other park? NO, those profits go right back to the broacasting arm of the company. It is the only way to run a business soundly, unless you want to fail.
*** This post was edited by VOLLEYGUY on 7/12/2001. ***
The SFMM Salvi
Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:18 PM
Man, i went to DCA like a week ago, i got bored after the fourth hour we were there. I mean, the coaster is pretty good but they should really start thinking of expanding more in the direction of teens and other thrill-seekers.
The SFMM Salvi:
"I want to go on something more exciting than X"
Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:01 PM
I have heard many different things about California Adventure but it all comes down to this...It depends on what kind of mind set you have going into the park. If you have some glorified picture in your head that it is going to be the best park in the world you wont have fun, but if you go into it thinking it is a Disney park and you know that it isn't huge that you will settle down and have more fun. Me personally haven't gone yet but i am on the 29th of this month... So all of you bashing DCA need to realize one thing...Disney parks aren't meant for the thrill seekers, they are meant for THE WHOLE FAMILY!!!!
DejaVu SFMM 2001
Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:50 PM
Who else here thinks The Electrical Parade is stupid? I do. Thats the time to get on all the cool rides at Disneyland. What's the point of that stupid parade and what's with that music it plays?
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Friday, July 13, 2001 4:16 AM
Remember...Disney is family oriented, not thrillseeker oriented....
If my 7-year-old wants to see the Electrical parade and not ride the coaster, I am going to opt for the parade
Friday, July 13, 2001 7:27 AM
You "Family" people don't realize that Disney went a little bit overboard on the "family" side of things, to the point where the park is flat out boring. I've never gone and I have no plans on going. Like everyone is saying, there is nothing to do.
Give it time? Huh? They've built the park, it's done, and they did it with kiddie rides. Tearing down rides and putting something else in their spot is hard to do. Michael won't admit they screwed up, his ego is too big. If it was that easy, then they'd tear down SuperStar Limo and put an S:UE or a drop ride in its place. Have they torn down SuperStar Limo yet?
A family in Orlando can visit US/IOA and there are many things for the kids to do. That's why attendence at Disney is down (read it in another report, there are numbers to prove this).
We're bashing Disney because Michael Eisner thought the "magic" would make people visit DCA. Sure, staying in their hotels and visiting 4 parks is fun, but once you visit IOA/US with everything in 1 park, it's over, there is no turning back. The kids become thrill seakers and Disney is a park for 4 year olds. If you wanna push your sleeping baby around in a stroller and pay big bucks to do it, visit Disney.
I have a 10 year old daughter, when IOA came along 2 years ago, that was it, we haven't been back to Disney since, and we have no plans on going back.
Talk "family" all you want, but the bashing and negative views are valid. We want thrill rides, and we're voting by not visiting DCA or the Orlando parks.
Robin Fox - "I see Stars, Can You See Them Too?"
Friday, July 13, 2001 9:31 PM
What did you expect dca to be? You cant just poor 5 billion$ into a park. Come on. They went way overboard on money for the park as it is. There was probably a amjor loan. Even Disney cant afford another multibillion dollar resort all at once, it takes some time. And you guys have to stop comparing Disneyland when it opened to dca because disney opened a long time ago when there werent that many parks and it was probably considered huge right then. DCA is surrounded by parks especially disneyland which is a massive park.