Arrow suspended coaster marketing video

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:35 AM
I was looking around on youtube when I came across this interesting video

It's Arrow Dynamics Marketing Director Jim Sheldon discussing the suspended coaster prototype. The clip is from 1979 and has video of a scale model suspended coaster doing a corkscrew. It also has footage (including pov) of a full sized model built without banked turns.

It's an interesting video if only for Jim Sheldon's radical 'stash

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:05 PM
WOW! Great find! The full sized model looks like fun, yhe way the car swings on the unbanked turn just looks totally insane!
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:10 PM
I downloaded that from a (now-defunct) coaster site years ago. It looks smoother than pretty much every other Arrow contraption!
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:51 PM
That YouTube link was posted here a while back.

That little clip is just a tiny piece of a much larger special that aired in '79 (even the part with Sheldon is longer). I think I have the whole thing somewhere.

Might be worth digging up and adding to YouTube.

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:30 PM
I've always wondered why the use of Schwarzkopf style box track on the full size mockup. Of interest to me also is how Schwarzkopf started building Big Bad Wolf, went bankrupt, and Arow took over the coaster. I wonder if that's why BBW is so cool, that Anton had a hand in it :)
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:54 PM
I always wondered that myself. The thing is, BBW doesn't really feature anything out of the ordinary as far as Arrow suspendeds go, it just seems that some of its elements were designed on a larger scale. If other suspendeds featured things such as larger drops, I think they would have been better received by the public.
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:16 PM
Cool POV of the only Arrow Suspended to ever grace NorCal. :(

*** Edited 11/14/2006 8:17:15 PM UTC by jomo***

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:30 PM
But the one in SoCal wouldn't be that bad if the park replaced the wheels every now and then.
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:36 PM
Agreed...most haven't aged well. Every time I watch Iron dragon's wheel assembliy go "bang bang bang bang" down the track I feel it could use some sort of retrofit of spring loaded wheels like the swiss guys use :)
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:56 PM
Ninja would be great because it takes good advantage of the terrain. I also like how the ride begins and ends with lift hills so there isn't a second lift in the middle of the ride to cause a break in the action. Maybe the coaster needs those new Vekoma floorless suspended trains?
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:33 PM
I've ridden all bar one of the operating Arrow suspended coasters, and I reckon the one in Canada's Wonderland to be the best of the bunch - though to be fair it probably helped that it was the best coaster there by a large margin :)

Having said that, the one at Chessington is pretty neat, though the new trains on that mean it doesn't feel like the older Arrow rides.

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:35 PM
The lack of banking would be one of the reasons The Bat failed at Kings Island.

I really wonder what made CP see such a unique ride and want a version that took little advantage of the swinging motion. Iron Dragon is great for kids, but the swinging isn't really needed.

That inversion on the model version would be just a bit painful.

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:00 PM
That video is taken from a 30 minute feature called America Screams.
It's hosted by Vincent Price (of classic horror movie fame), and he takes
the viewer through the history of the roller coaster. It also features extensive
POV footage of Colossus and the King Cobra at Kings Dominion.

It seems to date from around 1979 or so.

I own it, so maybe I'll upload it to youtube if I get some time.

*** Edited 11/15/2006 12:56:23 AM UTC by milo***

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:34 PM

jomo said:
Cool POV of the only Arrow Suspended to ever grace NorCal.

*** Edited 11/14/2006 8:17:15 PM UTC by jomo***

AFIK there never were any Arrow suspendeds built in NorCal.

In a way it's too bad that the invert rendered the suspended obsolete,can anyone imagine a dueling suspended along the lines of DD down at IOA?

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:44 PM
Um, BATWING...Arrow used to be based in the SF Bay Area. The full-scale model in the video was built at that facility...hence Jomo's comment.
Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:22 PM

mike okay said:The clip is from 1979 and has video of a scale model suspended coaster doing a corkscrew.

They actually made a full size model with a corkscrew too. They have a picture of it in the latest issue of ACE's magizine, "Rollercoaster!", I'd copy the picture, but don't want to violate any copyright issues. I'm sure there's a pic of it somewhere out there online.

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:17 PM
Wow, if the Bat had as many maintenance problems as it supposedly did, then imagine the maintenance on a suspended that does corkscrews!
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:17 AM
When I think of an Arrow suspended with a corkscrew "maintenance" isn't the first [or even second] problem that comes to mind, LOL! ;)
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:24 AM
Arrow or TOGO rides I dunno witch is worse...
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:31 AM
Witches are off-topic here.

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