Arrow Dynamics

The reprofiling was actually to soften the blow, as it dipped low then made a very harsh turn back up. That's what I've been told, but I don't remember 1989 very well!

Look here:
http://www.guidetothepoint.com/thepoint/gallery/img.asp?img=cp00magoff20.jpg
If you look at the cross-beams you can see where the track used to dip down, and you can see it's fairly drastic.
Look here:
http://www.guidetothepoint.com/thepoint/gallery/img.asp?img=cp00magoff15.jpg
See how low the track entering the tunnel goes? The track on the right entering the pretzel also went that low.

The first or second year, I forget which one, the train stopped in the middle of the pretzel because the new trims grabbed too hard in combination with a nasty head wind. That's why on extremely windy days they don't use the trims.

The rest of the Magnum photos can be seen here:
http://www.guidetothepoint.com/thepoint/gallery/default.asp?section=magnum

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Jeff
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So to me it seems like arrow had there problems with all rides they built, magnum had its problems, same with the steel phantom. Those trim brakes before the loop had to be instaled because it was going to fast. What about desperado, another arrow hyper, were there any problems with that coaster.

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Steel Phantom: A Decade of Thrills. (1991-2000)

I am an Arrow fan. Mostly of their Mad Mouses which are a blast! The loopers are of course pretty boring now, but 10 years ago they were new and pretty exciting. I hope to see them make a smoother comeback, and if Tennessee Tornado and Arrowbatic are any indication, the first park to take another chance on them is going to be pretty lucky.

I don't know about Deperado, but Viper(SFMM) has had it's share of problems. Like the lift chain being replaced after the first week it was open. Or the heavy trims right after the first loop and before the two corkscrews. They also replaced a piece of track right at the crest of the lift hill. So that you wouldn't turn too quickly.

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Goliath: The most intense Hyper in the world.

Okay, but arrow coasters arent the only one that have had trims installed on them. Mantis has a trim on the first drop. Raging bull has a trim on the 3rd hill and (according to some reports) there is a trim during the series of bunny hops on S:ROS @ SFA (Though I have never noticed this one). I think it is very hard for a coaster designer to make a coaster that will perfectly please the parks. So many coasters (not all designed by Arrow) have undergone trimming/reprofiling.

As far as layouts go, I think Arrow had a real good sense of pacing. Apparently, Morgan thought so as well. Though I have never ridden them, Steel Force and Wild Thing seem to be alomost exactly like Magnum. Even Steel Dragon is very similar.

Rode Mamba last week. Blows the doors off Desparado. Can't compare to MF as we haven't ridden it yet. It appears that Mamba is very similar, if not identical to Steel Force. It seems that Dana Morgan has remembered some of the things his father used to do.His father, Ed Morgan was one of the founding partners of Arrow. Maybe Arrow should take some notes.

Arrow's Latest Coaster was built in 1999 at Dollywood. It is called Tennesse Tornado. It is one of the best coasters that I have rode. My ride count is up to 407.

I have not seen anyone list it in the above posts, but if you get a chance to rideit, then it is very well worth it.

On the subject of coaster manifacters, I could really give a darn at who built it. If it is a good ride then I will ride it. I do not get caught up if a coaster is an Arrow or a B&M. I just enjoy riden roller coasters.

Enough said.

b&m, b&m, B&M!

Someone hit it above: rough ride. Every time I go to a Cedar Fair park I am pleasantly reminded that coasters don't have to beat you up to be a good ride. I was reminded of that on Mamba at WoF just last week. If Arrow can't figure that out and get the new business, perhaps Arrow should simply ride the Morgans and see the difference!