Arrow coasters with cobra roll

Monday, July 15, 2002 10:26 AM
Other than DF, how many arrows had cobra rolls?
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Monday, July 15, 2002 10:29 AM
As for as I know, none. I also think that Arrow called their Cobra Rolls "batwings", while using "boomerang" to describe the B&M-batwing inversions that appear on GASM, Shockwave, Orient Express, Viper, and Viper.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 11:54 AM

What is DF?

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Monday, July 15, 2002 11:59 AM
Drachen Fire

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:00 PM

Drachen Fire, the SBNO Arrow looper at BGW.

Of course, the cobra roll on that is a result of B&M designing the ride, and handing the plans off to Arrow. Why? I'm not sure.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:03 PM
B&M never had anything to do with Drachen Fire. That argument was settled a few threads back.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:10 PM
And its not SBNO - its gone

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:13 PM

DF is part of some persons car or a piece of structural steel by now! :(

As far as I know it was the only cobra roll on an Arrow.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:19 PM

And technically Arrow didn't call it a cobra roll - they called it a Batwing. Cobra Roll is a B&M term. For the record Vekoma calls it a boomerang, hence the name of their shuttle coasters featuring that element.

Interestingly, Vekoma created the Boomerang 12 years before B&M put a Cobra Roll on Kumba, yet among enthusiasts Cobra Roll seems to be the accepted term.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 12:19 PM
Yes, Drachen Fire was Arrow's only "Cobra Roll." All of the Vekoma Boomerang coasters have Vekoma's "boomerang" element which is just about what an Arrow Cobra Roll would probably feel like.

*edit* Lord Gonchar beat me by 5 seconds. Grrrr!

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Monday, July 15, 2002 1:36 PM

Heh, sorry Soggy. :)

You're probably right though, ride a boomerang - pretty much what an Arrow "Cobra Roll" would've been.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 1:42 PM

To some degree yes. I rode Drachen Fire a long time ago and i dont remember any thing about it, i had myself thinking it had two lift hills. But i do remember i had an isane head ache after riding it. On boomerang coasters there smoother than most Arrow's.

Drachen Fire was one of my first big coasters, big step up from Space Mountain. I remeber watching it go through the batwing/boomerang/cobra roll, and getting very scared, very scared.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 2:46 PM

bigkirby said:
B&M never had anything to do with Drachen Fire. That argument was settled a few threads back.

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B&M designed Drachen Fire. Oh it's very much true.
Raymond Blake from marketing (I think that's where he works) told me so and members from the in-house maintenance team told me and a former supervisor along with Bill (13 or 14 year employee at the park) told me. I really don't think would all lie about that and much less all tell me the same story.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 3:13 PM
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery112.htm?Picture=6

The batwing looks exactly like B&M cobra rolls.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 3:53 PM

Phaethon said:

bigkirby said:
B&M never had anything to do with Drachen Fire. That argument was settled a few threads back.

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B&M designed Drachen Fire. Oh it's very much true.
Raymond Blake from marketing (I think that's where he works) told me so and members from the in-house maintenance team told me and a former supervisor along with Bill (13 or 14 year employee at the park) told me. I really don't think would all lie about that and much less all tell me the same story.

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If this is true, than why would B&M sign a letter stating that they had absolutely nothing to do with Drachen Fire? If B&M did design Drachen Fire, why did Arrow Dynamics tell Jeff that the project was their's and their's alone? Park employees may say a lot of things, but not all of it is true.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 4:30 PM

Speedy said:

The batwing looks exactly like B&M cobra rolls.



Yes, except the Arrow Batwing element was first so technically B&M's Cobra Roll looks exactly like Arrow's Batwing. ;)

And Arrow's Batwing looks almost exactly like Vekoma's Boomerang which came even before - 1981 to be exact.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 5:00 PM
I don't really know if this is a legitimate question for this thread, but I was wondering if any of you know where a normal person, such as myself, would be able to purchase an old-school coaster car, or parts of a defunct coaster?!? Just wondering...thanx:)

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Monday, July 15, 2002 5:03 PM
Vbee, maybe you could call up PTC and ask for parts. They may have an old retired car they could sell you.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 5:06 PM

Thanks...I've been searching forever, it seems...but I haven't gotten very far. In the internet age that we are in, you would think there would be a www.defunctcoasters... or something...(If anyone cares...that's not a real site...) Oh well, I've always wanted my own coaster car in my living room...It'd be a nice conversation piece...don't ya think?? *smiles*

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Monday, July 15, 2002 8:49 PM
I like the name "batwing" best.
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