Arrow / Intamin tied for the most coasters @ CP.
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- "I used to be in the audio/visual club, but I was kicked out because of my views on Vietnam........and I was stealing projectors" - Homer Simpson
Ill just tell him I like explaining stuff anyways.
The Arrow Pipeline was a coaster that Arrow attempted to make where the trains would travel in pipe-type track, much like the TOGO Ultra Twister rides. However, Arrow's version would have been capable of Vertical drops in addition to the inline twists and such. The ride was deemed too rough to ride and improvements were made. The first pipeline coaster was supposed to be built at Alton Towers and was to be called Secret Weapon and themed around some kind of sinister missile base (This is why all AT projects are called "Secret weapon" and then the number of the coaster in relation to the original SW). Construction had started, but then along came B&M's Inverted coaster. When Batman: The Ride made its debut, it amazed riders and enthusists. It was an amazing new ride that almost everyone loved. Alton Towers realized how successful this ride was and immediately abandoned the Arrow Pipeline coaster project (SW1) and asked B&M and Wardley to build them an Inverted coaster in the Pipeline coaster's spot, which we now know as Nemesis. No other Arrow Pipeline coaster was attempted after that.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 95% sure this is right.
*** This post was edited by Ultimate Coaster on 1/12/2003. ***
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- "I used to be in the audio/visual club, but I was kicked out because of my views on Vietnam........and I was stealing projectors" - Homer Simpson
almost correct about alton, construction hadnt started. they also approached arrow TWICE to make a pipline coaster (SW1 and SW2). neither was built, then nemesis (SW3) took its place in the park. this page explains it better:
http://www.altontowerspark.info/features/air/whyair.html
along with the train weight and capacity problem, loading/unloading also had its fair share of problems
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CoasterKrazy said:
It'd be nice if the number of coasters from BOTH companies continued to increase at Cedar Point. If CP were to decide to go the way of Paramount's Kings Island, by making the park appealing to the entire family, they could up their coaster count....
Why on earth would they want to do that? It's not as if EVERY other park in existence is family oriented. What is so bad about having one "Thrill Park" that doesn't have tons of annoying little kids in it. I love that CP's visitors are pretty mature for the most part (some exceptions of course)! Cuts down on senseless strollers that get in the way, whiny brats, you get the picture.
-Coasterfreaky - who tends to like his parks wild, crazy, and without kids. : )
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
coasterfreaky said:
What is so bad about having one "Thrill Park" that doesn't have tons of annoying little kids in it
Uhhh...that it wouldn't stay in business very long, that's what.
Any and every park would rather have buttloads of 'whiney' kids than some loud, unruly, vandalizing teenaged dorks with their part-time job money (if we must stereotype here). I think it has a lot to do with the fact that whiny kids whine, "Gimme some candy, gimme a t-shirt" instead of "Let's go out to the car and smoke a joint."
While I personally consider CP lacking in junior/family coasters, there's still a lot to do. Thanks to CP's 'Parent Swap' policies, I can do all those things with my kids while you sit and wait in line for a coaster...then I hop on for a ride too. That's not what a park annoyed by kids would do...
-'Playa
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CoastaPlaya said: Uhhh...that it wouldn't stay in business very long, that's what.
CP is the perfect example of a thrill park that has managed to stay in business for more than a century....granted it's been a true 'thrill park' for just 25 or so years (opening of Gemini). I think CP does the best job choosing rides that cater to adults and enthusiasts rather than kids and fams- why does CP need to cater specifically to families when there are tons and tons of parks that do that very thing? Who wants to be normal - that's dull as dishwater.
True thrill park? Hee hee hee. You might find this link interesting. Not only do I disagree with you--so do a lot of families with whiny kids. Apparently, so does CP.
-'Playa
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya on 1/13/2003. ***
Sorry - your link doesn't work. And I disagree with you - as well as a lot of my friends who are not 'family'. : )
If CP isn't a thrill park, then there is no such thing.
Edit: The link finally worked....But that article doesn't say a whole lot to me. I think it's a (marketing) given that they would say that they are 'for families'. Ironically, at the bottom of the article they do nothing but advertise their new ride that you have to be 40-something inches tall to ride.
Contrast crowds at CP to PKI for example and at PKI there are a lot more things for kids to do at PKI than at CP...that's why at PKI there are so many kids and strollers and whinings and brats...so really that's a little bias on CP's part to get families in the park - I'm glad that it doesn't have a huge effect on the spectrum of guests that go to CP. Personally, I'd rather see teens who I don't pay attention to anyway than falling all over strollers at every turn and having my ear drums pierced by brat-noise. Anyway...the point i'm trying to make is almost moot anyway because CP will probably never cater specifically to families and little kids rather than adults and enthusiasts based on the last 10 or 11 coasters they have installed.
*** This post was edited by coasterfreaky on 1/13/2003. ***
Hmmm. Try putting the little arrow over it and clicking your mouse. Or you could just try this instead.
http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/news/toprate.cfm
but then again, what your friends think is all that matters anyway. Chuckle. Snort. Yeah, that's the story.
BTW--if CP was only about coasters, they wouldn't have bothered renovating Cedar Point Cinema for a non-thrilling, sit-down-on-your-keester-and-stare family ice show last year, would they? For the expense of that renovation, they could have built another mid-size coaster. Pfffffffft goes that theory.
-'Playa
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya on 1/13/2003. ***
CoastaPlaya said:
but then again, what your friends think is all that matters anyway. Chuckle. Snort. Yeah, that's the story.
-'Playa
Yep. My friends are filet mignon and you are lunch meat.
hehehe
One more word about the Arrow Pipeline, for those who have not heard this story already:
When SFMM was taking bids for their 1996 project one of them came from Arrow. It was a large Pipeline coaster designed to fit on a narrow slice of land running along the top of the mountain from Ninja Summit towards Colossus. I know this is true because I've seen the blueprints and artists' rendering of the cars.
As we all know the park went with Intamin and their coaster that was also designed to fit on that same slice of land, which the park named Superman: The Esacpe.
Moosh
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Yep. My friends are filet mignon and you are lunch meat.
Sure, to you I am (like that matters) but to CP my family of four is a couple nights lodging, four to five times the in-park spending drawn from 8-10 times your income.
As far as they're concerned, I'm the golden goose and you're my droppings...unless, of course your Mommy and Daddy bring you. In that case, they're the geese, your little siblings are the eggs and you get a new job as their droppings. Voila.
-'Playa
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya on 1/13/2003. ***
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